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Author Topic: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(  (Read 2898 times)

Offline AlphaDogCustoms

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #20 on: Mar 06, 2013, 14:20:41 »
While you are at it, pull your dipstick

Hey, hey!, HEY!
Watch yo mouf!
...every dump I take is original too, and it doesn't smell any better because of it's originality.

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #21 on: Mar 06, 2013, 15:53:59 »
@AlphaDog I'm not trying to argue or talk in circles--I'm just mostly trying to wrap my own amateur mind around what's going on. Sorry if it came off any other way. I'm learning something new almost everyday I try to solve this problem, so thank you for being patient with me. I will take your advice and execute before responding from here on out. I also am in the garage a lot replying as soon as I look at something or like in the previous responses I literally rode my bike about 8mi. in-between replies. Again, I will now respond only after attempting everything possible. 

I don't have external vent hoses on the carbs (bracing for bitch slapping  :-[).

@teazer
I did look for dirty gas. It does have an amber hue but I didn't see any particles or chunks. The tank at one point had old liner in it but was "cleaned out" at some point.  I also set float hieghts according to the picture in the manual which shows the carbs on their backs (airbox side).

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I have a brand new OEM filter, a super clean oil pan, and fresh oil in the bike and no smelly stick  ;D.

I'll take some time to execute some ideas I have and the ones you guys gave me. Thank you for your time.
« Last Edit: Mar 06, 2013, 17:32:07 by River City Rocker »
What year is that thing?

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #22 on: Mar 06, 2013, 16:00:04 »
Who says I'm being patient?  :)
...every dump I take is original too, and it doesn't smell any better because of it's originality.

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #23 on: Mar 07, 2013, 00:00:35 »
The way to set float height is to tilt the carbs until the float tang just touches the needle.  That float needle has a spring inside it (usually) and if you tilt the carbs all the way, the float level is wrong.

Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #24 on: Mar 07, 2013, 00:22:44 »
The way to set float height is to tilt the carbs until the float tang just touches the needle.  That float needle has a spring inside it (usually) and if you tilt the carbs all the way, the float level is wrong.

Apologies, but this made little sense to me (and I know how to set float height on carbs).
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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #25 on: Mar 07, 2013, 00:32:45 »
Sp let's try that again.

The float needles in most bikes have a small pin that the float contacts.  That pin is spring loaded to allow it to seal even when the float may be moving around on say bumpy roads.

Imagine a carb the right way up with the float rising until the tang just starts to press on that pin.  That's the height the floats should typically be set to.  As the float rises further, the tang compresses the spring and can sit much higher.

Now let's see a carb on its back.  If the spring is strong enough and you are careful, the tang will just contact the spring and that will be OK.  What usually happens is that upside down the weight of the float usually compresses the spring.  If the float is set to stock spec in that position, it will be much lower when it starts to shut off fuel flow.

That's why you take a carb and slowly rotate it backwards until the tang on the floats just touches the spring loaded pin in the float needle.

A much better way is to set the actual fuel level at around 3mm below the floor of the carb throat.  That's often called the "wet setting".

Bottom line is that as long as you are consistent and your bike runs fine, it doesn't much matter how you got there. :-)


 

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #26 on: Mar 07, 2013, 08:43:21 »
I think it's damned near impossible to describe it effectively to someone who has not been there, done that.

Here is a video that demonstrates just how delicate setting floats is.

« Last Edit: Mar 07, 2013, 09:29:10 by AlphaDogChoppers »
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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #27 on: Mar 07, 2013, 09:37:35 »
OK, I found an even better video that demonstrates tilting the carb until the float tang just touches the spring plunger in the float needle.

...every dump I take is original too, and it doesn't smell any better because of it's originality.

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #28 on: Mar 07, 2013, 12:08:38 »
What's that old saying about pictures and thousands of words....  That is a good one

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Re: IDLE ISSUES: Hanging Idle :(
« Reply #29 on: Mar 07, 2013, 12:13:57 »
Took a while to find a good one. I've been thinking of doing a few how-to videos myself. Some things are difficult to describe, but easy to show.
...every dump I take is original too, and it doesn't smell any better because of it's originality.

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