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Author Topic: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle  (Read 3517 times)

Offline mannydantyla

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What started out as a mild, stock-ish restoration of a hard-to-find 1974 Honda CL200, the project began to steer in the direction of darkness when I decided to add some bratstyle/tracker styling cues. One thing led to another, and the next thing I find myself doing is bobbing the rear fender.

For complete details and full pics, go here: http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/1-project-logs/26432-cl200-street-tracker-project.html

This is the first (running) motorcycle I've owned. I found it on craigslist and it was in pretty fair condition to begin with. Was running well but the stock air filters where crumbling apart and those had to be replaced. Then it was normal maintenance: adjust tappets, clean the centrifuge oil filter, replace leaky gaskets, etc.

As it looked when I found it:



Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #1 on: Feb 07, 2014, 15:30:42 »
Onwards!

Polished all the aluminum. Went through ~$50 in dremel tools to remove the nasty factory finish. Then hit it pretty hard with #1 steel wool. Then nevr-dull polishing compound + #0000 steel wool, then blue magic metal polish. Then a coat of turtle wax to keep them from tarnishing for a while. Will need to be applied yearly though.


buffing off the polish:


Then new tires. They're Shinko 244 duel sport.


So the side covers where cracked, broken, and ugly. I also wanted to replace the "gills" as I call them with perforated aluminum. First I repaired the plastic side covers with plastic-weld epoxy and some fiberglass tape stuff.


Then used bondo and spot putty on the outside surface:


Then paint. Found some dupli-color paint at autozone that was almost a perfect match. You like the new grills too?  8)


For the exhaust, I ordered some exhaust tips from ebay and made the baffles myself. The stock muffler had a giant hole in the bottom. The new pipes are about as loud, maybe louder, but the baffles to a good job of muffling the nasty high-pitched sounds.






« Last Edit: Feb 07, 2014, 15:41:18 by mannydantyla »

Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #2 on: Feb 07, 2014, 15:58:48 »
New tail light and turn signals. In this pics you can see where I'm planning to chop the fender:


I wanted to keep the same geometry as how the factory shaped the fender, just higher up on the bike. So I made a template. You can also see the chrome where the PO had used sandpaper to try to remove chrome pitting. That has got to go!


Put it where I wanted, drew the line, masked off the chrome, and used my dremel cutting wheel. It was easy.



Now to install the new handlebars.

Removing the original ones was a pain because the wires for all the controls ran through them.


Here's the new bars next to old for comparison. They're "daytona bars" but are perfect for the bratstyle look. I had to cut through the old ones because the wires wouldn't come out.


And cut "hockey rinks" in the new bars for the wires to go through, and drilled holes for the mounting pegs for the levers.


Put on the new grips (oem style) and that was it!

Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #3 on: Feb 07, 2014, 16:04:21 »
Thinking about making a custom seat and lowing the forks an inch or two. But for now I'm happy with it!





I finished just in time for the local vintage motorcycle show. I got third place in the Japanese street division!


Offline chucklump

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #4 on: Feb 07, 2014, 20:14:38 »
Were do you get baffles like that?

Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #5 on: Feb 08, 2014, 15:40:01 »
Were do you get baffles like that?

I made them but you can buy some for not to much more really and just wrap them in fiberglass

Offline Serial__Thrilla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #6 on: Feb 08, 2014, 20:51:04 »
Sweet!

Offline 1sttimer

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rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #7 on: Feb 09, 2014, 09:49:18 »
How do your baffles make the exhaust sound?  I don't like the look of my stock CL muffler at all but don't want to run open if I hacked them off.  What jetting issues did you have when you hacked and added the custom baffles? 


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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #8 on: Feb 09, 2014, 12:02:18 »
Love the bike.  I've always wanted one. Now you've made me want one even more. 
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Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #9 on: Feb 09, 2014, 13:34:24 »
Thanks, glad you guys like it! I'm really happy with how it looks, it's the perfect bike for me. Thinking about possibly adding a custom seat. However, I really like the way the stock one looks! With the chrome buttons and strap.. If anything I'll wrap the stock seat-pan in a nice black leather and shave off some foam to lower the profile a bit. And possibly lower the forks and/or raise the rear shocks...

Lots of "inspiration" credit goes to Woody's CL350 brat tracker, 2.3efi CL360 City Scrambler, and similar. Honestly though, seeing those builds reassured and reinforced the image I had in my head for it. I'd like to do some "glamour" shots, just to appease the photog side of me, if i'm not "over it" by the time the weather improves.

Inspiration:




How do your baffles make the exhaust sound?  I don't like the look of my stock CL muffler at all but don't want to run open if I hacked them off.  What jetting issues did you have when you hacked and added the custom baffles? 

They sound good! Loud, but without the high-pitched, slappy, nasty tones. Maybe a little bit louder than the stock muffler with big ass hole in the bottom, but better.

I'll try to post a video.

Offline chucklump

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #10 on: Feb 13, 2014, 19:14:16 »
I like how the cops shinning the light at your bike.

Offline shift_love

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #11 on: Feb 13, 2014, 19:27:03 »


I love this one, its totally rad

Offline i.holmes

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #12 on: Feb 18, 2014, 17:03:18 »
I've got the same bike!! When I found mine it was in great condition and it makes me worried about cutting into it. I've had a lot of the same inspiration bikes that you've posted here. How rare are these bikes actually?

I know that I can do whatever I want since my bike is mine but everything on the bike is still original and I would hate to ruin some of the pieces since they are so nice. I do plan to change out the stock handlebars for daytonas like you did. Seat is a whole other monster. I would love a flat leather seat but they all look so uncomfortable.



I like the way your going with yours and would love to see what you do to it next.

Offline mannydantyla

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #13 on: Feb 21, 2014, 23:30:43 »
I've got the same bike!! When I found mine it was in great condition and it makes me worried about cutting into it. I've had a lot of the same inspiration bikes that you've posted here. How rare are these bikes actually?

I know that I can do whatever I want since my bike is mine but everything on the bike is still original and I would hate to ruin some of the pieces since they are so nice. I do plan to change out the stock handlebars for daytonas like you did. Seat is a whole other monster. I would love a flat leather seat but they all look so uncomfortable.

I like the way your going with yours and would love to see what you do to it next.

Haha yeah, I found your build thread too. Some advice: do NOT replace the air boxes with pods, repair them if you must. Do NOT leave the petcock open for even a few minutes or gas will make it's way into the oil, which could ruin the cam, journals, and tappets. Join us at hondatwins.net, those guys are masters at diagnosing problems. Right now I'm having problems with it bogging from a stop and a weak top speed. The pod filters are a performance downgrade for sure, and the chopped exhaust shrinks the RPM range. I have a range of main jets I'm trying, just put in #93s and will test out tomorrow, but pilot jets cannot be found. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

And I know exactly what you mean about tearing into it. Part of me is not happy about ruining a "survivor". But another part, a much bigger part, is very happy with how it's turning out. I know I made the right choice though because every time I park and walk away, I have to look back and admire it  ;D

I'm having a custom seat created this Tuesday, so stay tuned. ;)

Oh, and I don't know HOW rare the bike is.. NO  ONE does. Honda never exposes the sales numbers for any of their models, even 40 years later. My VIN number is CL200E-1007044. 7044th one exported??
« Last Edit: Feb 21, 2014, 23:35:07 by mannydantyla »

Offline i.holmes

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Re: rare Honda CL200 transformation to tracker/scrambler/bratstyle
« Reply #14 on: Feb 23, 2014, 10:47:33 »
I had a similar issue with bogging, mine was when I was at speed then after short runs it would stall. I figured out it was the bowl floats were not adjusted correctly. Easy fix, just bent the arms of the floats and tested it by turning it upside down and blowing thru the fuel line to make sure there were no leaks.

I think if I end up doing anything to mine it will just be changing the handle bars. I like the stock ones but they look so goofy.

I'll definitely be staying tuned with your build and I've checked out hondatwins a couple times just havent started on the forums over there yet.
« Last Edit: Feb 24, 2014, 18:46:11 by i.holmes »