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Author Topic: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin  (Read 64362 times)

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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #440 on: Jul 11, 2018, 00:11:30 »
Small update, but one of particular interest to kz750 twin owners.

I was cross referencing part numbers and realized the z1/kz1000 share the same head studs as the KZ750 twin. This means you can use APE's heavy duty head studs and nuts which are intended for the z1/KZ1000. I have bought a set and can now confirm, however, you do end up with 4 extra studs and nuts you don't need. These bikes are notorious for head gasket leaks, increased compression will likely make this worse, hopefully this will help address that.
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #441 on: Jul 11, 2018, 07:26:03 »
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #442 on: Jul 11, 2018, 09:21:04 »
You don't have oil running up and around those studs do you, Doc?  Usually the studs that have the rod between the threads machined smaller than the threads themselves are running through oil passages, so oil flows passed them.  Oil leakage is usually due to the o rings or gaskets that seal between the head and the cylinder.  If that's the case, you're blocking oil passages with those APE studs.

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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #443 on: Jul 11, 2018, 10:45:42 »
You don't have oil running up and around those studs do you, Doc?  Usually the studs that have the rod between the threads machined smaller than the threads themselves are running through oil passages, so oil flows passed them.  Oil leakage is usually due to the o rings or gaskets that seal between the head and the cylinder.  If that's the case, you're blocking oil passages with those APE studs.

+ 1 I was thinking the same thing. My Honda twin used 4 of the studs as oil feeds and 4 that were o-ringed off. all looked like the tapered one, when you pulled them, the 4 that were feeds came out easy, the 4 that were not were always rusted to shit and stuck.
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #444 on: Jul 11, 2018, 15:41:33 »
Thanks for the concern guys. If you look closely you'll see there is a separate oil passage on the side that runs up to the head. Its between the outer most two studs, so its all good. Funny enough though, on the z1/KZ1000, oil is fed around the outer head studs as you described. APE mentions nothing about this and I have been running these heavy duty studs in my kz1000 with no problems.
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #445 on: Jul 12, 2018, 03:27:08 »
Some more info of interest to the kz750 twin owners.

taking from www.z750twin.de/zylinderkopfdichtung.htm


"Only buy the head gasket part #: 11004-1267, the green one
Itīs the last and best cylinder head gasket for the 750 twins

A little gasket history :
11004-071 => 11004-078 => 11004-1055 => 11004-1267
11004-071, recall campaign in June 1976
11004-078, the red one with black middle section
11004-1055, light brown, comes with the first LTD model
11004-1267, the green and the best for the last LTD model"

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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #446 on: Jul 12, 2018, 11:49:44 »
That's great info.  Now I'll have to check and see which ones I have.  Google Translate to the rescue.
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #447 on: Jul 12, 2018, 12:26:23 »
Small update, but one of particular interest to kz750 twin owners.

I was cross referencing part numbers and realized the z1/kz1000 share the same head studs as the KZ750 twin. This means you can use APE's heavy duty head studs and nuts which are intended for the z1/KZ1000. I have bought a set and can now confirm, however, you do end up with 4 extra studs and nuts you don't need. These bikes are notorious for head gasket leaks, increased compression will likely make this worse, hopefully this will help address that.

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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #448 on: Jul 19, 2018, 23:10:11 »
Finally got around to making mirrors for this thing. I got these cheap mirrors off ebay for $20, they are actually pretty nice, solid aluminum construction and convex glass. I used the old head studs for the stems, turned a little cap where the mirror attaches, tig brazed it on, and polished it back. I also had some stainless flange nuts that I trimmed down so they wouldn't be so bulky.
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Re: saving a 1980 KZ750 twin
« Reply #449 on: Jul 20, 2018, 00:19:38 »
Very cool way to repurpose those studs  8)

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