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Offline ridesolo

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #10 on: Jul 30, 2016, 18:10:04 »
2. Suspension. I was originally intent on keeping the stock front end but after chatting with PJ I am leaning toward an entire Katana swap with GSX-R internals. Keeping the stock hub. Or should I stick to the stock stuff and rebuild. Add a brace. Billet Top and bottom?

The EX500 Ninja (and EX250) forks are pretty much a bolt-on using the bearing set from AllBalls.  They're 37mm, so more hefty than the stocker 33mm legs.  You pretty much need to have a billet top triple, though, though the Kawi top and bars could work. I believe somebody on here found a disc that would bolt to the 360 front hub so you could use the EX caliper and mount.  EX stuff might be easier to find and cheaper than Katana stuff, not sure.
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This is cooking away out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL378: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0

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This one is FINALLY done: (!)
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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #11 on: Jul 30, 2016, 18:20:08 »
On the suspension: this is just me speculating from a barstool in my shop, but something about the katana fork/gsxr doesnt jive.  You mentioned keeping the stock hub - which is good because I'm guessing that means you will also retain a larger than sportbike size front wheel.  You will definitely want that the first time you see something you wanna get closer too on the other side of a ditch on a gravel road.  Put a smaller sportbike wheel (doesnt matter how knobby) on there coupled with forks that will either match or reduce front end travel and its ass over tits as soon as you hit the ditch.  a cb750 front end will go on there really easy, and give you more meat in the forks, then you can retain stock wheel size, or use a 21" old school XL/MT/Elsinore wheel too.  OR, keep an eye out with scrappers, you can snag a complete front end off a modern dirtbike (with ah-mazing front suspension) and a disk brake.  I recently got lucky with a random Husqvarna wr360 front end that literally dropped on my xr200r.  Crazy stable forks and a disk brake are a huge boost in sloppy gravel or even on any road.

For a headlight, LED.  you want shock absorption, go with LED.  no moving parts trumps fragile filament any day.  For the rearsuspension, I got nothing, good luck with it man.  Hope it turns out sweet.  Also, consider a skid plate for that motor if you can fab one up or find something to fit.  Folding pedals and shifter are worth far more than they cost also.

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #12 on: Jul 30, 2016, 18:21:29 »
The EX500 Ninja (and EX250) forks are pretty much a bolt-on using the bearing set from AllBalls.  They're 37mm, so more hefty than the stocker 33mm legs.  You pretty much need to have a billet top triple, though, though the Kawi top and bars could work. I believe somebody on here found a disc that would bolt to the 360 front hub so you could use the EX caliper and mount.  EX stuff might be easier to find and cheaper than Katana stuff, not sure.

Hey good idea.  those forks are nice and standard/long. not a low sport stance

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #13 on: Jul 30, 2016, 18:59:06 »
The EX500 Ninja (and EX250) forks are pretty much a bolt-on using the bearing set from AllBalls.  They're 37mm, so more hefty than the stocker 33mm legs.  You pretty much need to have a billet top triple, though, though the Kawi top and bars could work. I believe somebody on here found a disc that would bolt to the 360 front hub so you could use the EX caliper and mount.  EX stuff might be easier to find and cheaper than Katana stuff, not sure.
That would be me.  You have to remove the rivets to separate the centers and either cut down or find shorter caliper bolts, plus ream the rivet holes to 8mm from 6mm.  I wish I would've known about the EX fork swap.  It would've made my deal a bit easier.  I went with  a CB750 front end, which is also pretty much bolt on, but I'll have to custom fab caliper mounts. 

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #14 on: Jul 30, 2016, 23:25:51 »
Hey good idea.  those forks are nice and standard/long. not a low sport stance

I wanted a lower stance and lowered my forks by about 2"  Now I think they are too stiff and will be changing to 1".  I have to take them back apart to change the fork lower color anyway, so it's an easy change for me.
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Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

This is cooking away out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL378: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0

This is an on-going Non-Motorcycle saga:  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=71319.0

This one is FINALLY done: (!)
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #15 on: Aug 01, 2016, 15:04:13 »
I got some 250 Ninja forks off e-bay. (not one of my smartest purchases  ::) )
Top yoke is ugly as F***
Not an easy swap in my opinion, stem is wrong diameter to be easily changed although (All Balls didn't have a conversion kit when I got them)
It's just too expensive for the parts needed (new top yoke  ;) )
I may make them work someday, just not today  ;D
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CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #16 on: Aug 01, 2016, 15:16:06 »
On the suspension: this is just me speculating from a barstool in my shop, but something about the katana fork/gsxr doesnt jive. 

I posted pictures of it, simple as a simple thing can be.
 Uses stock Honda (or taper roller) bearings.
 Use Katana axle as it's same diameter as Honda.
Needeed to make new spacers to get wheel centered (I could have used the old steel ones but wanted alloy)
 You have to file a bit off the lock stops to get a decent (similar to stock)  turning radius. I could have gone further but it's for road not trail so didn't bother
 41mm forks don't look out of place on 360
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.msg164041#msg164041

Oh, if you click on small picture, link takes you to Photobucket
Scroll back a couple of pictures to see the front end on frame
« Last Edit: Aug 01, 2016, 15:26:39 by crazypj »
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #17 on: Aug 01, 2016, 21:24:54 »
I got some 250 Ninja forks off e-bay. (not one of my smartest purchases  ::) )
Top yoke is ugly as F***
Not an easy swap in my opinion, stem is wrong diameter to be easily changed although (All Balls didn't have a conversion kit when I got them)
It's just too expensive for the parts needed (new top yoke  ;) )
I may make them work someday, just not today  ;D 

Yeah, the original Kawi top yoke is pretty ugly.  I am using forx from an EX500 and it was easy.  AllBalls had the exact set needed and wasn't expensive, no need to do anything to the length or diameter of the stem.  Admittedly a new, custom top yoke is easier to afford when your brother is your designer/machinist.   
“Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart.”
— Baron Manfred von Richthofen

Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

This is cooking away out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL378: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0

This is an on-going Non-Motorcycle saga:  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=71319.0

This one is FINALLY done: (!)
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #18 on: Aug 01, 2016, 22:14:58 »
CB750 is an easy swap, too and 35mm.  KZ750 is an easy swap into a CB750, which may be an easy swap here by default.  Lots of KZ and CB custom options and the stock triples aren't bad either.  36mm on the KZ and the same length as the CB750. 

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Re: CB360 / Enduro / Brat / Quake Racer. Need noob advice.
« Reply #19 on: Aug 02, 2016, 20:02:55 »
  Personally, I'm looking at a PD conversion with an accelerator pump to compare with a 28mm Mikuni on mine.  But, the 28mm Mikuni is known to work very well on a CB360.
Accelerator pump carbs will be a real good idea for street riding, as long as delivery can be set  (or it gets too rich)

  Admittedly a new, custom top yoke is easier to afford when your brother is your designer/machinist.   

That actually made me laugh so I thought I should quote it
« Last Edit: Aug 02, 2016, 20:04:49 by crazypj »
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0