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Author Topic: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler  (Read 17098 times)

Offline crazypj

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #250 on: Aug 06, 2018, 19:33:58 »
Yep, I know. Not a big deal, drill hole and 'flat' bottom with centre cutting end mill
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline djsmiles

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #251 on: Aug 12, 2018, 13:00:10 »
Sssoooo I got the new clutch return spring in the mail and it's the same spring as the one I have. It looks like the cable length isn't allowing the clutch lever to go any further down than half way, maybe that is not allowing the clutch to return to the position it needs to be in to work properly. I'll play around with it more this afternoon but I'm about ready to just take it to a local bike shop to finish up the last couple adjustments so I can ride it yet this year. so frustrating.
« Last Edit: Aug 12, 2018, 13:18:50 by djsmiles »

Offline jrknecht

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #252 on: Aug 12, 2018, 13:43:44 »
I have a clutch cable that I just took off of my CJ360. It should probably be lubed up but still works and is not cracked at all. Should be the right length. Let me know if you want it. I also may have a spring, I have a lot of parts sitting in my storage shed, I will check to see if there is one in there. I am assuming that when you are starting you adjustment you have the bolt all the way down on the sprocket cover and the adjustment screw at the lever all the way in?


JR

Offline djsmiles

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #253 on: Aug 12, 2018, 13:53:17 »
I have the screw on top of the case all the way in. I have the one at the lever half way in because that's what I've read. I did just make the adjustments all over again and this time I felt tension on the handle and when I pulled harder it popped and then lost all tension.

Offline crazypj

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #254 on: Aug 12, 2018, 15:01:54 »
When it 'pops' it's gone 'over centre', you may have to pull cover off again. You can adjust cable before fitting cover so operating arm lines up with the cast in pointer although I always set it as low as possible and use adjuster screw on the outside of cover to move the entire lifter assembly onto the clutch push-rod. The return spring should be pretty thin wire, (1.5mm) If it isn't possible to adjust cable to get arm lined up with pointer you will have to shorten outer cable.  Some pictures 1: spring length (35mm) 2; adjustment pointer 3; correct position
« Last Edit: Aug 12, 2018, 15:04:57 by crazypj »
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline djsmiles

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My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #255 on: Aug 12, 2018, 20:19:14 »
I remembered that I have an extra cable because I accidentally ordered two. I took the one off the bike and compared them. The other new one is about 1/4" longer. Hopefully this will get the arm down into the 7:30-8:00 position.


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Offline crazypj

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #256 on: Aug 12, 2018, 20:31:10 »
1/4" makes a hell of a difference, as long as it's in the right direction  ;D
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline djsmiles

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #257 on: Aug 12, 2018, 21:35:34 »
Curiously, on the new cable, the nut that goes through the clutch cover, the part that is not threaded, was too big to fit in the hole so I don't know what's going on, maybe I've got a frankenstein bike. I installed the new cable and adjusted the flathead screw on the cover and now I can't pull the handle in which makes me think maybe I put the clutch plates back in wrong. Not sure how because I was very careful to put the new ones in the way the old ones came out (yes i soaked them in oil for 24 hours).

Offline crazypj

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #258 on: Aug 13, 2018, 12:01:22 »
360 has a 'tube' nut and locknut on top of it. I have a NOS CB350 cable here somewhere, can't remember if it uses same diameter parts? The tube nut should unscrew and fit on 'longer cable, standard 8mm thread on adjusters. CB550 uses same size nut as 360, 400F screws into cover. CB/CM400/450 has same tube nut as well NOS CB350. 60mm of 'exposed' cable, 11mm dia. tube nt
« Last Edit: Aug 13, 2018, 12:12:28 by crazypj »
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline djsmiles

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Re: My first build - 75 Honda CL360 Scrambler
« Reply #259 on: Today at 10:32:29 »
With the new cable I was able to get the bike to shift, I finally rode it last night but there's still a couple issues.
1. I have a difficult time finding neutral. I can shift down to 1st but when I click up to neutral it pops into 2nd too easily. Any suggestions on finding the right sweet spot?
2. It runs nice with no throttle but once I give it gas it pops and doesn't have much power. I know that I have short pipes and cheap air pods. But while adjusting the carbs with the adjuster screw with the special screwdriver, it doesn't matter which direction I turn the screw, nothing changes.
3. When I put my feet up on the foot pegs I get cramps in my hips, is there an adjustment for that? No? I'm just getting old? oh ok.