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Offline J-Rod10

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #650 on: Aug 06, 2018, 21:42:16 »
I've been following the trial a bit.

Seems to be some conflicting stories on Gates. Obviously he cut a deal, and was expected to throw Manafort under the bus. Manafort's accountant said it was Gates providing the info to them. Manafort's lawyers have said they'll introduce evidence showing Gates to be the one hiding money, and embezzling money to boot.

I suppose that should shake out tomorrow.

Never been a fan of getting a deal on your crimes to testify against another's. How trustworthy is Gates having had admitted to lying and agreeing to testify against Manafort in exchange for a far smaller sentence. His accountant was also given immunity for knowingly submitting falsified tax returns.


Not saying Manafort is innocent. I don't know if he is, or he isn't.

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« Reply #651 on: Aug 06, 2018, 22:09:40 »
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #652 on: Aug 06, 2018, 23:05:33 »

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #653 on: Aug 07, 2018, 00:24:06 »

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #654 on: Aug 07, 2018, 10:55:12 »
It's as if conservatives think those "California liberals" are just too stupid to know what to do with their own water.

Trump is playing to the conservative base, farmers in central California, who want more water diverted to them, as an aide acknowledged yesterday. But without thinking too deeply:

-- capturing rainwater is diverting water that feeds the ecosystem (rivers and streams). Just let them dry up? There are, obviously, human consequences (including economic) not just consequences for fish and other wildlife.

-- most firefighting is done with chemicals, not water.

-- diverting water from rivers and streams will dry out more areas and make them more prone to fire.

But we don't know what Trump was thinking because he won't clarify his position.

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« Reply #655 on: Aug 07, 2018, 11:37:28 »
-- most firefighting is done with chemicals, not water.

Chemicals are mixed with water.  Water is the vehicle.  Phos-Chek, for example, is comprised of phosphates and sulfates, clay, and guar gum mixed into water. They come as a dry powder and need to be mixed like Kool-Aid.  Straight water is also used to saturate boundaries and to cool areas.   Most firefighting is done with water, not the other way around.

Also, it's pretty common knowledge there is significant controversy surrounding California water and has been for decades.  Not sure why you're trying to make Trump a villain in it all.   They've been mismanaging water resources for a long time.  Considering 95% of the water in Southern California is brought in via manmade viaducts from the Colorado river, I'd say it's a legitimate problem. You keep bringing rivers and streams into the conversation, but the ones within the state's borders only provide 5% of the water to the region, which is desert. 

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« Reply #656 on: Aug 07, 2018, 12:55:38 »
Also, it's pretty common knowledge there is significant controversy surrounding California water and has been for decades.  Not sure why you're trying to make Trump a villain in it all.   They've been mismanaging water resources for a long time.  Considering 95% of the water in Southern California is brought in via manmade viaducts from the Colorado river, I'd say it's a legitimate problem. You keep bringing rivers and streams into the conversation, but the ones within the state's borders only provide 5% of the water to the region, which is desert.

Never said water isn't controversial in California. And people capturing water might be part of a solution, but it's not as simple as saying "fill your cisterns and the problem is solved -- you people are mismanaging by not doing so."

I'm making Trump a villain in it? Trump, as the president, injected himself into a conversation over forest fires and water by making a politically motivated and uninformed statement which he refuses to clarify. Trump regularly injects himself into conversations with politically motivated and uniformed statements which he refuses to clarify. In the shitshow that is US politics under Trump, my original post was simply pointing out that in the past couple of days more amazing/frightening news has come out, including Trump's tweet about water and firefighting.

And you misunderstand my statement about rivers and streams. I'm not talking about in-state rivers and streams that provide water -- I know that most of California's water comes from the Colorado (I lived in Arizona for 20 years). But the rivers and streams that do exist in California, and that are fed by rainwater and other sources, flow into the Pacific. Collecting rainwater will have unintended consequences for existing watersheds and the ecosystem, including fisheries, by depriving them of water. It's that simple.   
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« Reply #657 on: Aug 07, 2018, 13:00:09 »
To be fair, Trump brought himself into the conversation. If he didn't want to be criticized, he probably should have kept his vapid rhetoric to himself, as we know that's easier said than done in his case.

Politics aside, CA certainly could use a water overhaul as you mention. That's likely a many billion dollar effort to effectively transform that situation, but it would be good for labor there. For the 6th largest economy in the world it's not too far fetched to consider.
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« Reply #658 on: Aug 07, 2018, 13:05:50 »
To be fair, Trump brought himself into the conversation. If he didn't want to be criticized, he probably should have kept his vapid rhetoric to himself, as we know that's easier said than done in his case.

Politics aside, CA certainly could use a water overhaul as you mention. That's likely a many billion dollar effort to effectively transform that situation, but it would be good for labor there. For the 6th largest economy in the world it's not too far fetched to consider.

California is the highest taxed state in the country. They ought to have a little change for such projects.

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« Reply #659 on: Aug 07, 2018, 14:16:59 »
California is the highest taxed state in the country. They ought to have a little change for such projects.

No, New York is. California is 10th, in combined measures, or 4th or 5th in terms of state sales tax.

California brings in the most revenue by state taxes in the country, but that's because it has, by far, the highest population.

I agree, however -- there must be a better solution, and they should devote some resources to it. Perhaps Trump has a plan?   
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