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Offline J-Rod10

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #790 on: Oct 10, 2018, 18:35:04 »
I believe the press, as a whole, bends and twists things to fit their agenda.

I believe they rush to make something front page news as quickly as possible, regardless of the validity of it so they can be the one to break it. If they're wrong, so what, they'll spend 15 seconds saying they were wrong next week.

Antifa, they're not fighting Nazi's. The current group who calls them self "antifa" are a bunch of thugs who mask their identity to go commit violent acts. They sucker punch people, and run away. Or, 4-5+ of them get a hold of one person and go to town.

Personally, I don't get why folks are still harping on the lock her up bit towards Hillary.

If it was a regular person that did what she did, they'd be locked up. "She didn't intend to commit a crime" was the word on that. Someone who falls asleep at the wheel and kills someone didn't intend to kill someone, but they're still going to catch a manslaughter charge. Ole girl that shot her boyfriend in a bulletproof vest for YouTube views didn't intend to kill him, but she's sure as shit headed to prison over it.

On another note, I have not, and will not delve into racist remarks. That's not me. That's now how I think.


As for Savor's remarks. Heckling someone is one thing. Harassing them is another, and is quite illegal.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #791 on: Oct 10, 2018, 19:32:20 »
I believe the press, as a whole, bends and twists things to fit their agenda.

I believe they rush to make something front page news as quickly as possible, regardless of the validity of it so they can be the one to break it. If they're wrong, so what, they'll spend 15 seconds saying they were wrong next week.

Antifa, they're not fighting Nazi's. The current group who calls them self "antifa" are a bunch of thugs who mask their identity to go commit violent acts. They sucker punch people, and run away. Or, 4-5+ of them get a hold of one person and go to town.

Personally, I don't get why folks are still harping on the lock her up bit towards Hillary.

If it was a regular person that did what she did, they'd be locked up. "She didn't intend to commit a crime" was the word on that. Someone who falls asleep at the wheel and kills someone didn't intend to kill someone, but they're still going to catch a manslaughter charge. Ole girl that shot her boyfriend in a bulletproof vest for YouTube views didn't intend to kill him, but she's sure as shit headed to prison over it.

On another note, I have not, and will not delve into racist remarks. That's not me. That's now how I think.


As for Savor's remarks. Heckling someone is one thing. Harassing them is another, and is quite illegal.

You know why folks are harping on the lock her up bit? Because Trump continues to goad them at his rallies, and has done so for two years or more. You don't understand it -- but you're willing to continue to say she deserves to be locked up, despite not being found having committed a crime (except, perhaps, in your and others' opinions?). OK...

Wait -- do you think that antifa violence isn't a reaction to the far right, nazis and racists, and they just go around punching peace loving people? Perhaps you think the nazis are just peacefully demontrating and chanting their harmless slogans (such as "Jews will not replace us") and those darn antifa troublemakers turned everything into a shitshow by running a bunch of people over and killing one. Oh shit, that wasn't the antifa people. And I thought
the left is softer than I thought.

Glad you're not going to "delve into" racist remarks. How about condemning the president's racist remarks? A step too far?

Equivocate -- the name of the game apparently.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #792 on: Oct 10, 2018, 19:57:05 »
Are we still talking about the same DJT that Australian authorities refused to grant a casino license because of his links to organized crime?  The one who claims that he alone has brought down insurance premiums while simultaneously trying to get rid of the ACA and coverage for existing conditions?

Yes a few protesting women made some noise at Kavanaugh hearings because he lied about his past and the majority party refused to release the majority of his documented work record.  More importantly they made some noise because that same majority party rallied to support a white man of money and ridiculed the women who accused him of wrongdoing. 

Do we think that their voices should not be heard?  Do we think it's OK to protect men and to not protect women?  That was not a court of law where evidence of wrongdoing had to be proven beyond reasonable doubt and of course he has a right to tell state his side of the story, but the hast which the majority party and administration rushed through the "investigation" and swearing in were disgusting partisan politics and nothing more. 

And the way that DJT and his sycophant supporters claim that some sort of radical left wing socialist conspiracy is going to take away medicare and raise insurance rates and so on is just devoid of reality.

Much more important than all that noise though is that a Republican Congress and White House will absolutely slash all social programs if they retain control after November.  Medicare, medicaid and Social Security plus food stamps and other support programs will be slashed to keep the deficit from exploding as it is doing after the tax cuts.   And let us not forget that tariffs on imported goods are a direct and indirect tax on all Americans of any party affiliation.  They amount to a broad based tax of around $25 billion on all consumers.

And what happened to all those good paying American jobs that are coming back?  Well the tax breaks have largely paid for stock buy backs and the steel industry has raised prices but refuse to negotiate with unions over pay raises, so that's more money for industry owners and investors.

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #793 on: Oct 10, 2018, 20:15:15 »
I believe the press, as a whole, bends and twists things to fit their agenda.

I believe they rush to make something front page news as quickly as possible, regardless of the validity of it so they can be the one to break it. If they're wrong, so what, they'll spend 15 seconds saying they were wrong next week.

Antifa, they're not fighting Nazi's. The current group who calls them self "antifa" are a bunch of thugs who mask their identity to go commit violent acts. They sucker punch people, and run away. Or, 4-5+ of them get a hold of one person and go to town.

Personally, I don't get why folks are still harping on the lock her up bit towards Hillary.

If it was a regular person that did what she did, they'd be locked up. "She didn't intend to commit a crime" was the word on that. Someone who falls asleep at the wheel and kills someone didn't intend to kill someone, but they're still going to catch a manslaughter charge. Ole girl that shot her boyfriend in a bulletproof vest for YouTube views didn't intend to kill him, but she's sure as shit headed to prison over it.

On another note, I have not, and will not delve into racist remarks. That's not me. That's now how I think.


As for Savor's remarks. Heckling someone is one thing. Harassing them is another, and is quite illegal.


There isn’t any evidence of harassing. Whining doesn’t count. There needs to be police reports and official filing. Why should anybody be concerned with the delicate sensibilities of Sarah Sanders? She has the audacity to lie squarely to the faces of the American people, she deserves some heckling. Just as it would have been in the Agora, a creation of our true founders.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #794 on: Oct 10, 2018, 20:17:43 »
Are we still talking about the same DJT that Australian authorities refused to grant a casino license because of his links to organized crime?  The one who claims that he alone has brought down insurance premiums while simultaneously trying to get rid of the ACA and coverage for existing conditions?

Yes a few protesting women made some noise at Kavanaugh hearings because he lied about his past and the majority party refused to release the majority of his documented work record.  More importantly they made some noise because that same majority party rallied to support a white man of money and ridiculed the women who accused him of wrongdoing. 

Do we think that their voices should not be heard?  Do we think it's OK to protect men and to not protect women?  That was not a court of law where evidence of wrongdoing had to be proven beyond reasonable doubt and of course he has a right to tell state his side of the story, but the hast which the majority party and administration rushed through the "investigation" and swearing in were disgusting partisan politics and nothing more. 

And the way that DJT and his sycophant supporters claim that some sort of radical left wing socialist conspiracy is going to take away medicare and raise insurance rates and so on is just devoid of reality.

Much more important than all that noise though is that a Republican Congress and White House will absolutely slash all social programs if they retain control after November.  Medicare, medicaid and Social Security plus food stamps and other support programs will be slashed to keep the deficit from exploding as it is doing after the tax cuts.   And let us not forget that tariffs on imported goods are a direct and indirect tax on all Americans of any party affiliation.  They amount to a broad based tax of around $25 billion on all consumers.

And what happened to all those good paying American jobs that are coming back?  Well the tax breaks have largely paid for stock buy backs and the steel industry has raised prices but refuse to negotiate with unions over pay raises, so that's more money for industry owners and investors.

J rod has money in the markets and is willing to ignore the social losses while he gains financially.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #795 on: Oct 10, 2018, 22:36:58 »
J rod has money in the markets and is willing to ignore the social losses while he gains financially.
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« Reply #796 on: Oct 11, 2018, 00:03:58 »
I don't know J-rod but I believe he is sincere but his beliefs may be different and that's OK.  We all come from different backgrounds and have different life experiences and watch different TV channels.  Probably all have different friends that reinforce what we already believe.

It is really easy to get really wound up about a lot of this stuff and to repeat things we heard on the TV without challenging those things. We all tend to do it and it's always good to hear other perspectives and to listen to them rather than just dismissing them out of hand.   

One significant change on politics isn't that Trump is the first politician in history to lie or to embellish the truth.  He has a knack of saying things that are both untrue and designed to stoke fear and loathing and that is NOT in the job description.  But that's who he is.  He thinks that winning is about destroying the opponent and never having to find ways to work out a compromise that is more effective.  In that, he is right and dead wrong and now what the US or the world needs if we plan on making any sort of progress.

Simple example of distorted logic.  Trump announces relaxations of epa rules on fuel economy and emissions and thinks he will benefit from those changes and America will be able to consume more fossil fuels and sell our autos overseas.  Cars that don't meet Euro 'x' rules can't be sold in Europe.  Period. And cars that are too large to fit on Japanese or Chinese streets are never going to sell well. We cannot move backwards unless we want to see the rest of the world leave us behind. 

The US market is large and 70% or more is consumer consumption. We do make some things but not a lot that anyone else wants or can afford. We need to be looking forwards to new technologies that we can play a leading role in. No one is going to make coal powered steam driven cars any time soon. 

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« Reply #797 on: Oct 11, 2018, 01:34:07 »
One significant change on politics isn't that Trump is the first politician in history to lie or to embellish the truth. 

Let's be honest here if we're talking about lying: his lying is absolutely unprecedented in its scope and volume (unpresidented?).

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html

That graph is almost a year old, but the pattern has continued. He makes shit up out of thin air and gets caught in lies like no other.
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« Reply #798 on: Oct 11, 2018, 06:22:27 »
“Ride like the Wind” W.H.

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« Reply #799 on: Oct 11, 2018, 09:30:55 »
https://mobile.twitter.com/CNNTonight/status/1049854994181054464

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When a prominent African American steps out of the Democrat line, this is what happens.