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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #960 on: Nov 26, 2018, 16:29:26 »
My company had some where around 33 vehicles, mostly pickups, but we are reducing our fleet now for various reasons.

I am the fleet manager among other things. We have five Ecoboost F150s. None of them get above 20mpg. More like 16. We were very excited when we bought them, being in construction we spend a lot of money of fuel each year. It's not panned out. Especially in that one of the trucks is an absolute lemon. It's got a motor and a transmission about 5k after the warranty expired.

We also have three Dodge Diesel 2500's. They get decent mileage but Chrysler products bring an entirely different set of problems. They go through control arms like crazy. The ball joints are terrible.

I can't speak to the other ones, though I have heard great things about the Toyota. My EcoBoost Escape (a company vehicle) gets around 22 on mid grade fuel with ample highway driving. With more city it's closer to 21. If I run cheap fuel it gets 19 mpg. My 9-5 gets 30 plus mpg highway and 22 city, but the 2.0 EcoBoost makes more torque and more HP than the Saab. My guess is the Escape is just too heavy, though I haven't even looked at the weights.

I have also heard great things about the Mazda's, I actually considered a CX5 for my family, but our cars are working well so no need to buy.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #961 on: Nov 26, 2018, 17:00:05 »
My company had some where around 33 vehicles, mostly pickups, but we are reducing our fleet now for various reasons.

I am the fleet manager among other things. We have five Ecoboost F150s. None of them get above 20mpg. More like 16. We were very excited when we bought them, being in construction we spend a lot of money of fuel each year. It's not panned out. Especially in that one of the trucks is an absolute lemon. It's got a motor and a transmission about 5k after the warranty expired.

We also have three Dodge Diesel 2500's. They get decent mileage but Chrysler products bring an entirely different set of problems. They go through control arms like crazy. The ball joints are terrible.

I can't speak to the other ones, though I have heard great things about the Toyota. My EcoBoost Escape (a company vehicle) gets around 22 on mid grade fuel with ample highway driving. With more city it's closer to 21. If I run cheap fuel it gets 19 mpg. My 9-5 gets 30 plus mpg highway and 22 city, but the 2.0 EcoBoost makes more torque and more HP than the Saab. My guess is the Escape is just too heavy, though I haven't even looked at the weights.

I have also heard great things about the Mazda's, I actually considered a CX5 for my family, but our cars are working well so no need to buy.
Are your EcoBoost trucks first gen 2.7L, or the latest engines? I had several friends complain that the first gen engines got no where near the advertised mileage. Haven't heard as many complaints on the 3.5L. The 5.0 gets roughly the same mileage, which is comparable to the 6.2 from GM.


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« Reply #962 on: Nov 26, 2018, 20:16:32 »
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« Reply #963 on: Nov 26, 2018, 20:22:13 »
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #964 on: Nov 26, 2018, 21:01:41 »
My company had some where around 33 vehicles, mostly pickups, but we are reducing our fleet now for various reasons.

I am the fleet manager among other things. We have five Ecoboost F150s. None of them get above 20mpg. More like 16. We were very excited when we bought them, being in construction we spend a lot of money of fuel each year. It's not panned out. Especially in that one of the trucks is an absolute lemon. It's got a motor and a transmission about 5k after the warranty expired.

We also have three Dodge Diesel 2500's. They get decent mileage but Chrysler products bring an entirely different set of problems. They go through control arms like crazy. The ball joints are terrible.

I can't speak to the other ones, though I have heard great things about the Toyota. My EcoBoost Escape (a company vehicle) gets around 22 on mid grade fuel with ample highway driving. With more city it's closer to 21. If I run cheap fuel it gets 19 mpg. My 9-5 gets 30 plus mpg highway and 22 city, but the 2.0 EcoBoost makes more torque and more HP than the Saab. My guess is the Escape is just too heavy, though I haven't even looked at the weights.

I have also heard great things about the Mazda's, I actually considered a CX5 for my family, but our cars are working well so no need to buy.

Cx5 and escapes are pretty much the same vehicle shell.

My 2.0t escape got around 25mpg,
My parents bought an equinox, it has a puny 1.6l turbo diesel, it gets around 40mpg combined. Not a sporty vehicle for sure, but surprisingly no slouch either.

As with any turbo engine, fuel economy drops like a rock as soon as you need to really work it. Those eco-boost trucks are great when empty, but as soon as you need to haul shit, forget it.

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« Reply #965 on: Nov 28, 2018, 04:17:15 »
interesting if provable ...
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #966 on: Nov 28, 2018, 15:57:20 »
Regarding the GM mass layoffs -- doesn't anyone remember when Trump specifically promised that GM would be hiring more people and building new factories?
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« Reply #967 on: Nov 28, 2018, 17:17:54 »
The government should have let GM fail, and hopefully they will let them this time around. They have ran themselves into the ground. A good reorganization is needed.

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« Reply #968 on: Nov 28, 2018, 17:19:34 »
curiouser and curiouser ...
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« Reply #969 on: Nov 28, 2018, 18:28:48 »
The government should have let GM fail, and hopefully they will let them this time around. They have ran themselves into the ground. A good reorganization is needed.
GM is in no way failing.  These were one-shift plants, which are unsustainable for any automaker.  They're plants that produce cars out of favor with most Americans, ie. sedans, and it allows GM to restructure half their division in order to move towards electric.  This is similar to Ford moving mostly to their trucks.  It's a plan that's a long time in the making.