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Author Topic: "the Mooch"  (Read 71947 times)

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1100 on: Feb 27, 2019, 11:40:54 »
People are exhausted of the daily lowering of the bar. People want to tune it out. Some support it, many are apathetic.

Perhaps one of the most significant actions to curtain the institutional legacy of this president occured yesterday with the House voting to overturn Trump's emergency order for wall funding. We will find out soon if there are enough Senate Republicans (4?) willing to stand up to Trumpism and executive overreach.

And Cohen's damning testimony is currently playing. Republicans are trying to undercut his reputation, including Florida's Matt Gaetz, who threatened Cohen in a tweet the other day (and may face witness tampering charges), by claiming he is a liar and a criminal -- seemingly ignoring the fact that portraying him thus reflects on Trump's character since Cohen was his right hand man.

It's a sinking ship in a shit storm.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1101 on: Feb 27, 2019, 11:44:50 »
People are exhausted of the daily lowering of the bar. People want to tune it out. Some support it, many are apathetic.

Perhaps one of the most significant actions to curtain the institutional legacy of this president occured yesterday with the House voting to overturn Trump's emergency order for wall funding. We will find out soon if there are enough Senate Republicans (4?) willing to stand up to Trumpism and executive overreach.

And Cohen's damning testimony is currently playing. Republicans are trying to undercut his reputation, including Florida's Matt Gaetz, who threatened Cohen in a tweet the other day (and may face witness tampering charges), by claiming he is a liar and a criminal -- seemingly ignoring the fact that portraying him thus reflects on Trump's character since Cohen was his right hand man.

It's a sinking ship in a shit storm.

I dont know if you ever read The Daily Mail, a UK publication that has a lot of US conservative fans. If you take a look at the comments under the Michael Cohen testimony, you will see their opinions of Trump have not changed. They are all for Trump, call Cohen a liar, and completely dismiss his testimony as "partisan politics" and "fake news."

I dont know that truth will ever prevail as it did Pre Trump. The paradigm has shifted, for the worst.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1102 on: Feb 27, 2019, 11:52:48 »
I dont know if you ever read The Daily Mail, a UK publication that has a lot of US conservative fans. If you take a look at the comments under the Michael Cohen testimony, you will see their opinions of Trump have not changed. They are all for Trump, call Cohen a liar, and completely dismiss his testimony as "partisan politics" and "fake news."

I dont know that truth will ever prevail as it did Pre Trump. The paradigm has shifted, for the worst.


This is nothing new, people believe what they want, and need to see and touch the wounds themselves to believe what someone might tell them. The only difference now is that these people feel validated enough to be open about their opinions and what they believe to be the truth

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1103 on: Feb 27, 2019, 16:43:37 »

This is nothing new, people believe what they want, and need to see and touch the wounds themselves to believe what someone might tell them. The only difference now is that these people feel validated enough to be open about their opinions and what they believe to be the truth

No, it is new. We’ve never had a president that fully controlled/listens constantly too a propaganda organization that is funded by billionaires, and supported by and army of Russian trolls and propped up by white nationalist and supremacists.Never in any time, when information is readily available and lies easily refuted, have ppl chosen to look past Trump, his lies, his infidelity etc. As he said when campaigning, he could shoot someone on 5th avenue in broad daylight and get away with it

It’s definitely beyond me at this point. When a substantial portion of the population absolutely refuses to acknowledge evidence and reality, what recourse do we have?
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1104 on: Feb 27, 2019, 19:37:54 »
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1105 on: Feb 27, 2019, 19:59:44 »
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It’s definitely beyond me at this point. When a substantial portion of the population absolutely refuses to acknowledge evidence and reality, what recourse do we have?

I think that the answer to that question is to try not to become too tribal and to get involved in the political process.  Vote and maybe offer to assist in getting others registered to vote or offer to transport people to a polling place or assist in more direct ways with your local electoral process.  Feel free to use you voice through social media and to write to your local congress people and senators even if they are of a different party than your preference.   Politicians won't do much with one voice, but when they hear from enough individuals thye are more prone to act. Make your voice and vote count.

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1106 on: Feb 27, 2019, 21:29:36 »
I think that the answer to that question is to try not to become too tribal and to get involved in the political process.  Vote and maybe offer to assist in getting others registered to vote or offer to transport people to a polling place or assist in more direct ways with your local electoral process.  Feel free to use you voice through social media and to write to your local congress people and senators even if they are of a different party than your preference.   Politicians won't do much with one voice, but when they hear from enough individuals thye are more prone to act. Make your voice and vote count.

Definitely an important piece of the puzzle, especially with Republican attempts to disenfranchise large swaths of people or, as in the case of Harris in North Carolina, commit outright fraud -- the very thing Republicans say they are trying to prevent by disenfranchising.

But getting people to vote needs to be coupled with getting people to be smart, to question sources, to educate themselves and be able to identify reliable news from partisan bullshit. That's going to be tougher in a polarized US.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1107 on: Feb 27, 2019, 22:36:35 »
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1108 on: Feb 27, 2019, 23:53:04 »
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since you're not American you may not quite get this part

but for a school to release ANY students SAT scores would be grounds for action

under FERPA laws, all federally funded schools have strict rules about when and why they can release scores, and must be anonymized. Although FERPA protections apply to federally-funded schools and some other entities that are devoted to education, most states do not regulate college testing organizations. Among the exceptions are California and New York, both of which have passed laws that explicitly forbid testing entities from releasing test scores without student consent, and California test-takers must be provided with an easily understandable written description of the testing entity's promises with respect to student privacy. Additionally, a Connecticut privacy law that took effect in 2005 prohibits any individual, business, or other entity from publicly releasing anyone's Social Security number.

it wouldn't be unusual for someone to threaten legal action against an illegal release of test scores.

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1109 on: Feb 27, 2019, 23:54:42 »

This is nothing new, people believe what they want, and need to see and touch the wounds themselves to believe what someone might tell them. The only difference now is that these people feel validated enough to be open about their opinions and what they believe to be the truth

so you're telling me you believe his statements to congress now that it's anti-trump? even though he is going to prison for lying under oath to congress?
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