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Author Topic: "the Mooch"  (Read 72670 times)

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1110 on: Feb 28, 2019, 00:32:12 »

it wouldn't be unusual for someone to threaten legal action against an illegal release of test scores.

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No -- it would be unusual precisely because it's illegal. This also jsut reflects badly on Trump -- either he didn't know it was illegal, or he just wanted to threaten them.

What about grades?
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1111 on: Feb 28, 2019, 00:33:54 »
so you're telling me you believe his statements to congress now that it's anti-trump? even though he is going to prison for lying under oath to congress?

Please don't tell me you think he is making this all up to -- what? -- save his own ass (which is already going to jail)? Sure he's shifty AF, but if you think Trump isn't capable of the things Cohen describes -- such as tax evasion -- I've got a bridge I'd love to sell you.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1112 on: Feb 28, 2019, 01:03:49 »
Please don't tell me you think he is making this all up to -- what? -- save his own ass (which is already going to jail)? Sure he's shifty AF, but if you think Trump isn't capable of the things Cohen describes -- such as tax evasion -- I've got a bridge I'd love to sell you.
I mean, he did say he was hoping for a reduced sentence (according to an article I read.) So, partially, yeah, he's trying to save his own ass.

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1113 on: Feb 28, 2019, 01:59:54 »
Do you think he would lie to Congress again and leave himself open to doing more time?

Besides, he has documentation to support some of his claims.

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1114 on: Feb 28, 2019, 02:29:57 »
Do you think he would lie to Congress again and leave himself open to doing more time?

Besides, he has documentation to support some of his claims.

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I'm sure someone, somewhere asked "Do you think Manafort would lie to Mueller again, and risk more time?"

Personally, absolutely. These privileged folks will do whatever they can to avoid prison. Does that mean he is? No.

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1115 on: Feb 28, 2019, 07:33:11 »
How about a specific example. Cohen testified that he was told by Trump to pay off Stormy Daniels, and received 10 checks over a period of time as payment, which he can prove with cancelled checks. Think he is lying about that?
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1116 on: Feb 28, 2019, 07:53:30 »
How about a specific example. Cohen testified that he was told by Trump to pay off Stormy Daniels, and received 10 checks over a period of time as payment, which he can prove with cancelled checks. Think he is lying about that?
Wasn't it common knowledge that Trump reimbursed that? At least, I thought it was.

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1117 on: Feb 28, 2019, 08:10:47 »
Wasn't it common knowledge that Trump reimbursed that? At least, I thought it was.

Oh, so he's not lying?

Perhaps we should go back a little while to remember Trump's "evolution" on this matter. People who are OK with Trump seem to be OK with this as well, although it is not only a campaign finance violation but it's also somewhat crazy. A president boinked a porn star while his wife was at home with her newborn then paid $130,000 during the campaign to cover it up, and lied about it repeatedly. Hmm...

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1118 on: Feb 28, 2019, 13:44:01 »
Trump denied it though. So it was Trumpís word versus Cohenís. Now thereís evidence, some that at the bare minimum suggest Cohen isnít fibbing at least about this.

What I found interesting about the testimony was that the Republicans ran a smear campaign from the outset. Instead of looking at what heís saying and objectively trying to figure out what is true and what is horse shit, the Republicans wanted to taint the testimony as less than credible based on character only. Everybody knows the guy is a shit head, he willingly worked for Donald Trump, but no counter facts were presented, instead it was pure character assisination of Cohen. Why would this be the case? They canít refute the testimony, so itís easier to smear the person giving it. The Republicans acted like children and itís sad.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #1119 on: Feb 28, 2019, 15:56:47 »
so you're telling me you believe his statements to congress now that it's anti-trump? even though he is going to prison for lying under oath to congress?

Look up the Valachi hearings.  This type of thing isn't exactly unprecedented.