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Author Topic: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build  (Read 24626 times)

Offline Sonreir

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #100 on: Mar 05, 2018, 13:08:20 »
Let me be the first to say that I love the carbon look.

Now that's that over with, don't overlook the functionality of using a metal tray. The easy grounding of all the components mounted there make for a pretty clean wiring option.
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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #101 on: Mar 05, 2018, 13:47:42 »
Let me be the first to say that I love the carbon look.

Now that's that over with, don't overlook the functionality of using a metal tray. The easy grounding of all the components mounted there make for a pretty clean wiring option.

I considered this, and the tabs that will be welded to the frame to mount the tray at all four corners (those 6mm holes) will be where I make the ground.
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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #102 on: Mar 08, 2018, 23:00:46 »
rear shock mounts taken off, make room for the *MUCH* tighter seat hoop.



mocked up and then cut these from 3/16" plate.



this is the idea:



Now, here is where I am a little bit skittish. The TC bros rear subframe kits and the Cognito-Moto shock mount kits all use this same idea... a 3/16" thick plate cut and shaped to which you weld your shock mounts. its a good bit thicker and heavier than the stock setup (but the stock setup is boxed)

I have plenty more material to cut more of these plates and make a boxed section, but I am wondering if this really is strong enough?

(Dime City Cycles universal cafe racer shock mount slugs) :





EDIT: sorry about your neck, for some reason all images were rotated
'75 Honda CB360 - thread

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #103 on: Mar 09, 2018, 17:38:21 »
You n eed to remove a little 'triangle' so where tubes meet doesn't get welded/stressed and gusset becomes more of a brace
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CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #104 on: Mar 10, 2018, 00:04:28 »
You n eed to remove a little 'triangle' so where tubes meet doesn't get welded/stressed and gusset becomes more of a brace

you're talking about the buttweld? yea, I did end up doing that, getting welded tomorrow so will post back updates then


spent today polishing



pleased with the results, considering how back these looked before! (including a huge gouge out of the clutch cover right where the brake pedal kissed it)
« Last Edit: Mar 10, 2018, 01:38:39 by MiniatureNinja »
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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #105 on: Mar 13, 2018, 17:11:20 »
Got lots of parts in the mail today: teaser until i can photograph them all tomorrow evening in the garage

Clip-on handlebars
Cables (shorter clutch, new throttles)
Grips
Levers
Misc hardware (nearly every bolt is replaced with a stainless socket head)
Tachometer (already modified to have a NS indicator)
Rear Shocks
speedy seigle aluminum rear brake stay
Exhaust adaptors (until custom exhaust is welded up by a pro)
35mm KPMI intake valves
Clutch Springs, Clutch discs
bronze swing arm bushings
tapered bearings for steering head
Fuze block, vintage cloth covered wire, battery
universal 12v 5ohm canister coils, new wire and caps

still LOTS to do before she's ready for the road but I am very excited. Also here in Northern California we've been hit with snow and rain pretty much solidly for weeks. Might get to ride the end of April before the local Vintage bike show


one problem I foresee is that the Rick's stator doesn't have the mark for the timing. Not sure how I am going to time this bitch because I don't have the original stator any more
« Last Edit: Mar 13, 2018, 17:19:00 by MiniatureNinja »
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Offline crazypj

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #106 on: Mar 14, 2018, 11:06:55 »
Unless you really need new clutch plates I would stick with stock. They seem to work better (or just as bad  ;D ) as anything else out there when you have 'race' springs fitted and will take several years of abuse (or several thousand miles) Should save you around $50.00 you can spend on something else (better tyres?)
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #107 on: Mar 14, 2018, 13:37:51 »
Unless you really need new clutch plates I would stick with stock. They seem to work better (or just as bad  ;D ) as anything else out there when you have 'race' springs fitted and will take several years of abuse (or several thousand miles) Should save you around $50.00 you can spend on something else (better tyres?)

Good info, I seam to remember you telling me before and I measured the stock ones - they are at the very limit of tollerance so I decided to get new ones. I saved some money on the seat that I really wanted (tuffside) and bought a cheasy ebay universal cafe seat in the mean time.. that extra $300 will go to tires (tyres). I dont want to comprimise with the xs wheels, so I am going to wait on the wheels until I can afford some sun rims - but at 3x the cost that may be next year. Biggest fudge I have right now is where to find a cable for this remote master cylinder setup


regarding the timing mark, can I just "guess" the mark on the ricks stator based on location of factory ones from a picture or do I need to buy a factory used one from ebay to time this thing
« Last Edit: Mar 14, 2018, 13:48:58 by MiniatureNinja »
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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #108 on: Mar 15, 2018, 10:25:16 »
You need to line up TDC accurately  then just make a mark on stator. An automotive style bolt on plate should work (but you will have to fabricate something)
SUN rims? Any particular reason? Probably overkill unless your going dirt track racing or using WM4/5 rear and need matching front? The Mikes XS WM3 are fine for weight/use on 360 (or XS650  ;D )
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

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Re: 75 CB360 - bad omen "yatagarasu" build
« Reply #109 on: Mar 15, 2018, 10:31:16 »
Most dirt bikes use a WM3 rear rim, and they go through a lot of abuse and mount a decent width tire.  They're usually 1.85 in the front, which for a 19" rim would be a W2.