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Author Topic: Cb360 Reassembly Help  (Read 16135 times)

Offline crazypj

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #220 on: Jan 04, 2019, 21:32:57 »
M6 bolts are 1mm pitch. M8 are 1.25.  Honda mostly used ISO standard threads from around 1967 ((standard was set up in 1965 IIRC? It's mainly to do with the root and crest shape), Honda has some JIS and specials. (JIS fine?)   Almost all of the 10mm threads are also 1.25mm pitch
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Offline cb360j

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #221 on: Jan 08, 2019, 10:05:22 »
Alright, engine is back in with no assistance from the tired helper in the chair.  Will finish up the wiring tonight and see if I can get it timed and started.

Offline cb360j

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #222 on: Jan 14, 2019, 08:14:16 »
Hey Sonrier,

I finally got the engine back in and everything is wired up, though I re read through this just now and do not have a bare metal contact behind the ignition coil mounts. So maybe that is the issue.

But last night I went to give the starter a turn again after its rebuild, and unfortunately it still didn't turn.

Things noted now that are different:
-When I push the starter button, the solenoid makes a buzzing noise. Before it would only click once. Is this indicative of the solenoid being fried? I tried to just bridge them with a screwdriver and no turning of starter.
-Still haven't bought a new battery, but I used my tractor jump starter connected to the bad battery at 200A when I tried to turn the engine over and thats when the buzzing came.
-I have the bar controls you sent me that were the cdi buttons, so the kill switch is wired backwards. Would this affect anything?


Could all of this be from a bad/no ground point behind the coils? Everything else works properly (all lights).

Offline Sonreir

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #223 on: Jan 14, 2019, 11:43:00 »
The bar controls shouldn't be an issue, no.

With the tractor battery hooked up, does bridging the solenoid studs with a wrench cause the starter motor to turn?
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Offline cb360j

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #224 on: Jan 14, 2019, 11:56:11 »
No sir, no starter turning. Which I thought was sort of weird, usually when the solenoid is bad you can bridge it and the starter will turn.
Wasn't a tractor battery, it was a tractor jump starter/battery charger turned to the 200A selection which is designated for starting purposes.
« Last Edit: Jan 14, 2019, 11:57:48 by cb360j »

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #225 on: Jan 14, 2019, 12:05:33 »
Oh, OK. Just for giggles, do you have a spare 12V battery you can hook up to? Maybe jumper cables from a car (with the engine turned off)?
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Offline cb360j

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #226 on: Jan 14, 2019, 12:09:11 »
Sure do, Ill try it out this afternoon.

Just for knowledge sake, why is there the potential that it will work using a battery? But not the charger

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #227 on: Jan 14, 2019, 12:11:23 »
Just to double-check things. I don't have a lot of confidence in plug in jump starters. You'll probably get the same result as before, but I just wanted to rule it out.
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Offline cb360j

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #228 on: Jan 14, 2019, 12:12:21 »
Word. Ill get it checked off when I get off work, thank you

Offline crazypj

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Re: Cb360 Reassembly Help
« Reply #229 on: Jan 15, 2019, 17:21:36 »


But last night I went to give the starter a turn again after its rebuild, and unfortunately it still didn't turn.

Things noted now that are different:
-When I push the starter button, the solenoid makes a buzzing noise. Before it would only click once. Is this indicative of the solenoid being fried? I tried to just bridge them with a screwdriver and no turning of starter.
-Still haven't bought a new battery, but I used my tractor jump starter connected to the bad battery at 200A when I tried to turn the engine over and thats when the buzzing came.
Could all of this be from a bad/no ground point behind the coils? Everything else works properly (all lights).

'Buzzing' at starter solenoid is usually a sign of bad battery or bad connections  Did you test the starter before fitting it? Just use jumper leads, negative to motor body, + to cable screw, (It's high torque so hold it down in vice of with your foot)  You can do same test with it fitted, make sure bike is in neutral (or on main stand, no drive chain, etc) 
Test starter solenoid on bench. Connect multi-meter on continuity/Ohm's to large battery terminals, apply 12v to the thin wires. pos to Y/R, - neg to G/R. Check continuity across 6mm bolts. Should be very low or zero. The coil ground has no effect on starter circuit, if bad you won't have spark
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
Best thing I ever overheard
"yep, PJ's my boss, he taught me everything I know, just didn't teach me everything he knows"
Brian Morgan, 1982

CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0