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Author Topic: Walnut service bench, all done but the finishing.  (Read 2781 times)

Offline trek97

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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #30 on: Jun 21, 2018, 14:23:50 »
Finding it real difficult to get excited about walnut dowels and glue right now.  Please bear w me.


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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #31 on: Jun 21, 2018, 14:40:46 »


Sure thing, dog.

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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #32 on: Jun 21, 2018, 14:53:55 »
Wow Trek, neat shit, just found this.
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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #33 on: Jun 21, 2018, 17:40:40 »
Wow Trek, neat shit, just found this.

Thank you Sir.

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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #34 on: Jun 21, 2018, 19:56:05 »
Nice! Can't wait to see it finished.
I considered building a cantilever type bench when I did mine. Mainly because you don't need a ramp to load a bike on it. But I gave up on it because I couldn't come up with a solution to mount casters, and I wanted the ability to move it when needed.
Mine is like a milk crate bookshelf. It does it's job well, but it ain't much to look at.
Yours will be like fine furniture. Functional and elegant ;)
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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #36 on: Jun 21, 2018, 22:38:20 »
Dude you read my mind.  I looked at some antique castors.  But those look super nice and a decent price.
Thanks!

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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #37 on: Jun 22, 2018, 18:43:02 »

Sorry, I wasn't exactly clear in my comment. I couldn't come up with a solution to mounting wheels on the pivot base and on the rear support leg that would allow it to roll easily and not have the possibility of the support leg folding under while in motion. And since I'm not an engineer (nor do I play one on TV) and didn't want to drink all the beer it would take for me to figure out how to strengthen/reinforce the support leg, I went the less complicated route.

I did consider those for my "milkcrate bookshelf" bench though, and they would work well for moving only the bench around, but I wanted to be able to move bike and bench at the same time.
The drawback to those are, each caster supports 100lbs, for a combined total of 400lbs. When you lift one caster at a time, as those are designed to do, the bench is then being supported by only 3 casters (only 2 if/when it "teeters"). So now your overall caster/bench load capacity has just dropped by 25-50%. And unless your bench/bike combo weighs less than 200lbs, you've just exceeded the load capacity of the casters contacting the floor and likely damaged them.
When selecting casters/wheels for a project, you have to consider how many wheels will always be in contact with the floor at any given moment. If your floor is not smooth/level like finished concrete, you run the possibility of the object "teetering" on only two of the wheels/casters, and need a load capacity on each wheel/caster that'll accommodate the load it's supporting. For my purposes, I needed/wanted the casters to support 600lbs (CB750 (the heaviest bike I own) + bench weight + some leeway). Because I'm rolling on top of a plywood decked floor, the chances of it "teetering" on only 2 casters was a certainty, so I went with 300lb each capacity casters.
I couldn't find those style casters with that high of a load capacity that were reasonably priced for my "budget bench". I also came to the conclusion that if my casters had to support all the weight anyway (to move it), there was no reason/need to have them fold up. So I just bought locking casters to keep the bench from moving when I didn't want it to.
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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #38 on: Jun 22, 2018, 19:08:19 »
That's a lot of words to basically explain that you didn't know what you were doing LOL. ;) You only need two lifting casters on one side.  The other side can have locking, swivel and/or non swivel casters.  You build the base so it's level in the drop position.  An inch of rake while you move it is no big deal.  To get both to work together, you run a bar between the two.  They make them as paired units that work that way or you can just adapt those.  But yeah, with weight capacity comes cost.  Those Amazon deals will probably do fine with a 300lb motorcycle and a bench that weight no more than 200lbs.  But, if you're trying to be cheap you probably shouldn't be looking at casters anyway.  In my studio building days, i built a lot of work tables and benches that had to be mobile and handle significant weight.  I've used those type lifting casters a lot.  This is another setup (not my design) I did for work table expected to handle up to a ton. The jacks are like $15 at Harbor Freight...




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Re: Walnut service bench
« Reply #39 on: Jun 22, 2018, 19:57:54 »
Well that pic would've been helpful a couple of years ago!!

Yes, pairing them up will cure the lifting/teetering load capacity issue. And if it's kept on a level surface you won't have to worry about the moving/teetering load capacity issue either.

I toyed with the idea of linking them together as well, but with an "over center" type setup similar to a motorcycle rear wheel lift (race stand). But not having the ability or capability to weld, that went out the window pretty quick :P
And No, I didn't know what I was doing. I so rarely do :P
Generally I just dive in and learn as I go. I figure if I fuck something up, I'll just unfuck that part next time ;D
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