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Author Topic: The Nortons  (Read 6781 times)

Offline irk miller

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #80 on: Jul 12, 2019, 02:18:11 »
I'd love to have a seat from a 1960 BSA 500cc Goldstar Catalina Scrambler.

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #81 on: Jul 12, 2019, 09:50:30 »
Ah, yes; if it isn't one thing, it's twelve...

I just bought six tires and will have our top 3 bikes re-shod by the weekend. Just in time to head for the hills!

You really must finish the Commando and allow it some significant ride time before a final decision on selling. You owe it to yourself.
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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #82 on: Jul 12, 2019, 13:19:36 »
Ah, yes; if it isn't one thing, it's twelve...
I just bought six tires and will have our top 3 bikes re-shod by the weekend. Just in time to head for the hills!

You really must finish the Commando and allow it some significant ride time before a final decision on selling. You owe it to yourself.

Yeah, that was my other thought.  I guess I need to get busier ...

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #83 on: Jul 12, 2019, 16:12:36 »
Commando is such a great looking bike.  I had a series of Triumph pre-unit twins when I was younger and then a Rocket 3 and always had a soft spot or yearning for the Commando.

Unfortunately for me, I repaired one for a friend and got it all set up and took it for a short ride and that was really a colossal let down.  Compared to the Yamaha twins I was riding at the time (RD and RZ), the big Norton was slow and heavy and clumsy.  My Gt750 makes a lot more HP weighs about the same and make way more torque.

But,  and it's important, the Commando was never designed to be a peppy little street fighter. It's designed a different way for a different purpose.

GP is correct that you need to get enough miles under your belt to appreciate it for what it is and what it offers. She may be a little older and slower, but that lady can still dance - and beautifully. Appreciate her for who she is who she is not.

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #84 on: Jul 13, 2019, 01:04:12 »
Unfortunately for me, I repaired one for a friend and got it all set up and took it for a short ride and that was really a colossal let down.  Compared to the Yamaha twins I was riding at the time (RD and RZ), the big Norton was slow and heavy and clumsy.  My Gt750 makes a lot more HP weighs about the same and make way more torque.

But,  and it's important, the Commando was never designed to be a peppy little street fighter. It's designed a different way for a different purpose.
Not meaning to cast aspersions on your tuning abilities, but a well-tuned STOCK Commando can beat an RD almost anywhere except very tight twisty stuff. The first straight line you come to, you leave the RDs behind (like for like, stock vs stock)
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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #85 on: Jul 14, 2019, 19:22:31 »
I'd love to have a seat from a 1960 BSA 500cc Goldstar Catalina Scrambler.

Might look odd on your chopper.... 

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #86 on: Jul 14, 2019, 19:31:29 »
Commando is such a great looking bike.  I had a series of Triumph pre-unit twins when I was younger and then a Rocket 3 and always had a soft spot or yearning for the Commando.
Unfortunately for me, I repaired one for a friend and got it all set up and took it for a short ride and that was really a colossal let down.  Compared to the Yamaha twins I was riding at the time (RD and RZ), the big Norton was slow and heavy and clumsy.  My Gt750 makes a lot more HP weighs about the same and make way more torque.
But,  and it's important, the Commando was never designed to be a peppy little street fighter. It's designed a different way for a different purpose.
GP is correct that you need to get enough miles under your belt to appreciate it for what it is and what it offers. She may be a little older and slower, but that lady can still dance - and beautifully. Appreciate her for who she is who she is not.

I'm really ok with whatever performance per pound the 850 has.  It really is a great looking bike.  I do look at each bike for what it is, not what it isn't.  My dad is the one with some trouble with that.  He just can't get his head around why I also have a chopper in my stable.   "They can't keep up in the twisties" is his thing.   He isn't a horsepower guy per se but his bikes have always been stuff that he can turn, lean, and stop.  Not a comparable trait of most choppers.  Mine hauls ass in the straights though.  ;)

I really do dig the Commando and I'll get it on the road although not as soon as I first hoped.   I'm going to take a closer look at the other bikes this week and see what I can shuffle around to get them to my place.  I still have space issues.

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #87 on: Jul 14, 2019, 20:05:24 »
Not meaning to cast aspersions on your tuning abilities, but a well-tuned STOCK Commando can beat an RD almost anywhere except very tight twisty stuff. The first straight line you come to, you leave the RDs behind (like for like, stock vs stock)

Well don't. 

Sure a well set up Commando should be faster than a stock 30hp RD, but a 60HP RD will pee all over a Commando any day of the week.  And as you should have realized, that was not the point of my post.

The point was that it's a different sort of bike and different sort of riding experience and should be enjoyed for what it is and for what it is not. It's a fun bike to ride in its own right, and I was encouraging Canyoncarver to appreciate it for what it is and to ride it when it's done.

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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #88 on: Jul 14, 2019, 21:46:08 »
Sure a well set up Commando should be faster than a stock 30hp RD, but a 60HP RD will pee all over a Commando any day of the week.

Didn't I mention "like for like"? I meant 'stock' RD vs 'stock' Commando; should have been clear.

A 60HP RD is quite the modified bike. I'd stack up a similarly (for a 4-stroke) modified Commando against an RD anytime!

Like, say, this one (a tad under 60HP, and I'd be giving up over 100 pounds) ...



Apart from the suspension, carbs, headers, and bodywork, this is a stock 850.
« Last Edit: Jul 16, 2019, 10:32:53 by grandpaul »
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Re: 1973 - The Commando
« Reply #89 on: Jul 15, 2019, 17:57:12 »
Well, I would hope that a commando would beat out an RD being that it has 400 more cc's. It's twice the bike.

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