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Author Topic: Dirtbag Challenge cb360  (Read 941 times)

Offline bracketmaker

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Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« on: Apr 10, 2019, 12:02:43 »
Dirtbag Challenge cb360

Not a harley, cost $400, put $250 in parts, 1 winter.  $650 total, well under the 1k allowed. it was a NY flood bike. not sandy, irene. the engine was locked up. came with a parts engine. po tamed it with a hacksaw and cut off all the seat mounts, then gave up. the current seat is from a rm250. $24 on ebay shipping included. ad said its from a dt125 but they can't guarentee fitment. ha.  I cut it back a bit with tin snips and put it back togather with four 1/8" bolts as mounts. the molded foam cuts neaty with a hacksaw. 4" of molded padding actually is comfortable. new tires as wide and big as will fit easily. 100/90 front 110/90 rear shinko 712's. new wheel straps and tubes. new sealed grease bearings. home made regulator and rectifier. home made harness. all led. lights not bar switched except the signals. lights turn on with the bike. new petcock. integrated front turn signals, new headlight. home made 1968 triumpth style wire ears. rear signals, brake light and running light on two 1157's rear red lights jb welded inside the frame tubes instead of the ubiquitous hoop. two 12v ice cube relays take care of the turn signal logic. led flasher. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=76304.0 battery delete with inspection day bypass. I use a switch, battery to lighting circuit. one position to battery the other position to the stator. Ignition switched to stator on both positions. 2 poles 3 position 20 amp switch. lansplitter bars from a bmx bike. db killer baffles in the pipes. mufflers removed. loud pipes save lives. pz30 bootleg honda carbs the kind that come with the lifan 200 crate motor for free. not for racing but perfect for a dirtbag. gy6 manifolds. pods. brackets and bike cables to splice the honda throttle cable to the pz30's. how did I know these bootleg bad boys would work. 2 x 200cc is more than 360. cables cut and fit to choke. new points. valve job. yes, bought the valve tool.  pods. new seals, exhaust hardware and studs removed and changed to springs.

every cusom bike has a back story. mine is no different. every repair on this show quality antique gets done with modern parts in modern ways, restomodded in a way that looks antique. that means by default  4" wide rear max to look period correct. all the new tech is hidden under the seat. my builds are quick, dirty and unique. I am not a pro mechanic. I do it to relax. I consider it leasure time. takes lots of beer and weed but I always finish. this is not a 38 page build thread where it never makes it back on the road. projects ends when the inspection sticker goes on. then it gets posted. anything ugly gets gloss black enamal. used an expandable $2.99 pep boys adjustable rubber freeze plug  to block the hole that was the starter motor. removed the internal stater chain and gear. any weight that can be removed gets stripped out. lost the frame past the rear shock, tach, battery, battery box, air box, starter, mufflers, chain guard, turn signals, center stand, throttle return cable, exhaust studs and doughnuts, rear fender and tail light.

idles like a sewing machine because of the new carbs. comes to a stupid slow idle with release of the throttle. neoprene needle valves rule. starts first kick every time. good power up to 85 mph. thats as fast as i've had this sow splitt'n lanes in traffic on the major deagan. at that speed I can hear the cush drive complaining.

turns heads. this bike has been done so many ways in so many different styles. it's like like ode to my rifle from full metal jacket with this build.......this is my cb360, there are many like it, but this one is mine. My bike is my friend. turning wrenches is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my honda is useless. Without my honda, I am a pedestrian. I must fire my cb360 true. I must ride straighter than the uber who is trying to kill me. My bike and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our backfire, nor the smoke we make. We know that it's all about knowing your limitations as a mechanic......................
 
if anyone wants to know specifics of anything I've done just ask and I'll do my best to explain how and why. looking forward to justin longhorn reading this post. special thanks to the state of vermont for keeping me legal.

here is a pic before inspection, with mufflers. more pics to come.

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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #1 on: Apr 10, 2019, 15:02:49 »
This is hilarious, especially the ask you questions part.  Looking forward to a nice bike showing up in this thread. 


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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #2 on: Apr 10, 2019, 15:49:24 »
I'm in.
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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #3 on: Apr 10, 2019, 20:04:22 »
Love the intro
Felt inspired to do a dirtbag bike myself.


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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #4 on: Apr 11, 2019, 07:27:30 »
I like it.

Way to use the lines from Full Metal Jacket..........cool.
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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #5 on: Apr 11, 2019, 09:14:08 »
Ha!

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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #6 on: Apr 13, 2019, 12:50:14 »
Irk has given me a compliment. I've been lurking here for a long time. I've seen his cb360 builds. he has gotten personal with this bike, he does see my repairs because they are seamless. the best ones always are. this is a picture of the inspection day battery box. how does a big boy bike run on such a small guage wire. the answer is it does not. I have the ignition wired straight to the stator. everything else is on a low current second circuit. I use a two pole three position waterproof toggle switch to switch between modes.  ignition + led's, kill (off) and ignition + inspection. the new kill switch is wired like an rd350 and cuts the power to the coils, not like a honda where the bar end kill switch grounds the points. uses a lot less wire. the stock bike used to run four circuits through a fuse block. with new tech two circuits is all you need. one for ignition the other for led's and horn. I'm not running fuses because I'm not running a battery. been riding like this for years on many different bikes. that antique stator is not going to burn up my new tech. the freak'n rectifier is rated at 40 amps. If I get a short the bike just stops running. I could run the lights full lossie and ride for a days and not kill that alarm battery but thats not the plan.

got my inspection sticker today. one of the pods has a tear so I put modern air filters. they came free with blaster carbs on ebay. inspection day was a riot. the mechanic came out and said you can't get an inspection because I don't have any turn signals. big smile on his face when I turned them on. he never saw integrated led's like that. I'll say it again, the best repairs are invisable. rode home and removed the battery, strap and two bolts.



note the liberal use of gloss black enamal. yes I know it scratches easily.  one mans scratch is another mans pantana. since its a custom bike it needs some custom tank graphics. bummmed about this. had all winter to order stuff. going to be a three week wait. every dirtbag needs pin stripes and a flying eyeball on the tank. right?  took this pic last year at the lot show in bklyn. what I did buy is pin striping brushes with the plan of doing it myself. dumb ass. looks so easy when a pro does it. its not. tried on paper. disaster. I'm no artist.
 


ok, I'll stick to making brackets. ordered graphics on the web. should work out well. coulden't get a flying eyeball, but found a flying skull, melting watch, roses, playing cards, cob webs you get the idea. should get ooo's an ahhh's at the next show. 15 x 21mm. 1$ shipping included from hong kong.



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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #7 on: Apr 13, 2019, 13:14:56 »
Love the von Dutch eye.  I seriously considered getting one as a hood ornament on my Volksrod.


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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #8 on: Apr 14, 2019, 18:19:21 »
put db killers in the pipes and lost the muffler. cb360 porn for everyones viewing pleasure. bike is finally stripped down to where I want it. and it's period correct.






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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #9 on: Apr 19, 2019, 21:44:42 »
                   


                 
these pics taken at idle with no battery. could not figure out how to imbed a slideshow but the signals work perfectly.

it's just fun to watch someone be so stubborn. You were wrong, that's fine, it's just comical to watch you keep trying to convince people you weren't.

exactly I didn't rewire this antique in a modern way with an sql40a rectifer 3 phase rectifier, nor did I make the shunt regulator.

You have to be trolling, but we can't have a bunch of false information spread on the forum either.  Someone might actually believe you're smart and that you know what you're talking about.

exactly I won't post any more.

do not do what I do. wire your honda twin this way.

Wire colors:
Yellow - AC from alternator
Pink - AC from alternator
Green - Ground
Red - DC positive to battery
Black - 12v voltage sensing for ignition

everyone please forget about the white stator wire it's not a phase, ac does not come out of it and it does not need to be rectified.






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Re: Dirtbag Challenge cb360
« Reply #10 on: Apr 19, 2019, 22:58:20 »
                   


                 
these pics taken at idle with no battery. could not figure out how to imbed a slideshow but the signals work perfectly.

exactly I didn't rewire this antique in a modern way with an sql40a rectifer 3 phase rectifier, nor did I make the shunt regulator.

exactly I won't post any more.

do not do what I do. wire your honda twin this way.

everyone please forget about the white stator wire it's not a phase, ac does not come out of it and it does not need to be rectified.

  I hope you'll still continue to post.  It's awesome that you figured out that you can wire a single phase alternator with a 3 phase rectifier.  Those wire colors I posted are how most of the aftermarket solid state and mosfet regulator/rectifiers are wired.  That was not meant to indicate the colors in the Honda harness.   The Honda harness has yellow, white, pink, green and red/white for the regulator and rectifier.