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Author Topic: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes  (Read 1328 times)

Offline andrew embassy

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SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« on: Jun 05, 2009, 16:16:17 »
Anybody have squeaky disc brakes?  Mine is squeaking like a stuck pig and it kinda kills the cool factor when you roll up on a place sounding like nails on a chalkboard.

I bought a can of brake squeal killer stuff, but I'm a little worried about spraying anything on the brakes...

Offline Rocan

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #1 on: Jun 05, 2009, 23:27:23 »
Anybody have squeaky disc brakes?  Mine is squeaking like a stuck pig and it kinda kills the cool factor when you roll up on a place sounding like nails on a chalkboard.

I bought a can of brake squeal killer stuff, but I'm a little worried about spraying anything on the brakes...

just spray brake cleaner all over it and watch the dust wash out...

just be careful not to get it on your paint job
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Offline Rat400F

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #2 on: Jun 07, 2009, 12:35:18 »
I guess drilling the rotor will help. I've got a drill press and I'm drilling my rotor tonight in preparation of replacing my pads, levers and line. We'll see how far I get tonight.
Oh, and I sprayed disk cleaner on mine, it didn't squeak for about half a day.
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Offline andrew embassy

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #3 on: Jun 07, 2009, 14:37:28 »
I guess drilling the rotor will help. I've got a drill press and I'm drilling my rotor tonight in preparation of replacing my pads, levers and line. We'll see how far I get tonight.
Oh, and I sprayed disk cleaner on mine, it didn't squeak for about half a day.

Ooh yeah - let me know how it goes, I've been meaning to get the rotor drilled.

Offline Rat400F

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #4 on: Jun 08, 2009, 12:19:59 »
Drilled it out last night and realized I should have taken the advice of a fellow gear head when he told me to buy cobalt drill bits.
I finished OK with 100% success but I had to change bits about three times.
Buy some bits and come on up sometime.
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Offline brewtown16

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #5 on: Jun 09, 2009, 12:06:19 »
do you have to change out the pads for ceramic ones?
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Offline Rat400F

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #6 on: Jun 09, 2009, 12:11:31 »
I just mounted it last night and did some brake checks. Not a squeak to be herd and the stopping power seems better. I didn't change the pads.
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Offline Swagger

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #7 on: Jun 09, 2009, 17:48:13 »
Drilling your rotors probably didn't do much for brake squeal, but the cleaning that almost assuredly came with it did.
You can get brake pad isolators for cars at most any autoparts store, get a set and cut'm up to work on your bike.
Alternatively you can get goo in a tube to smear on the back sides of the pads.
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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #8 on: Jun 21, 2009, 04:05:10 »
woops just realised you said it was a disk brake...

check the pads for wear and hit them with a bit of sandpaper... cleaning the disk will help also.
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Offline Mach-5(50)

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #9 on: Jun 21, 2009, 13:50:54 »
I think that resurfacing the rotor is the best bet. I have sold all of the over the counter brake squeal remedies, and few work in rare occasions. It comes down to harmonics. Sometimes the silicone type can absorb enough of the vibration to dampen the squeal, but it is most likely from having a glazed rotor surface. Douching your pads with brake cleaner may help, if there is dust a grit. Think about it this way, you are trying to create friction on a smooth surface (assuming the rotors have not been resurfaced). You need two rough surfaces to create a good amount of friction. If the rotor surface is smooth, the pad has little to bite into and "skips" across the surface of the rotor. But it does this at a high enough rate to create a harmonic effect, and hence the squeal. here's another way to lok at it. By putting new pads on an old rotor, you are also asking the pad to conform the the uneven surface of the rotor. So you have these very small areas of the pad surface that don't contact the rotor, pockets of gas for, expand rapidly to due to the heat caused by the friction. The pockets of gas force the pad off the surface, so the gas can escape, and then slap down again. Vibration leading to harmonic squeal.
The other factor may come down to pad composition. Organic pad material is usually softer, and has a different coefficient of friction than a semi-metalic pad. So if you have semi mets, changing to a softer organic pad may absorb more of the vibration and decrease the squeal. But, the real issue is still not being addressed.
So why do ceramic pads tend to be quieter? Because they have such a high coefficient of friction that they essentially resurface the rotor face. They are much more abrasive than semi-mets and organics, so expect to replace you rotors more often, or replace them with high quality rotors.

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Offline jmeperu

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Re: SQUEEEEEAAKKY brakes
« Reply #10 on: Aug 08, 2009, 13:28:10 »
+1 to mach-5, im glad i didnt have to type that all out.

also it could be contamination on pads and rotor, any type of oil will contaminate them.
wipe a clean paper towel across the rotor and see if anything besides dust comes off.  ive got brake fluid on my stuff before and they squealed super bad.  i looked up the boiling point of dot 4 (536deg f)  and set my oven to 550 threw my rotor and pads in there (after cleaning them with dawn of course) and boiled off the fluid.  made my house smell like almonds and made my brakes stop squealing. 

hope that helps