1965 Honda C100 Cub (Watch me strip!!! XXX S*X!!!)

crazypj

Split personality, I fake being smart
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub

You can have motor out and stripped in about an hour (as long as you have impact driver and clutch nut spanner- it's similar to 350 oil filter nut but smaller)
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub

crazypj said:
You can have motor out and stripped in about an hour (as long as you have impact driver and clutch nut spanner- it's similar to 350 oil filter nut but smaller)
no doubt; one benefit to many pushrod motors is how easy they are to disassemble compared to their OHC counterpart. I'm going to put off the rebuild for a while though. This bike is currently my third priority, behind my education (final on tuesday! woohoo...) and my cb350, in that order.
 

joeyputt

The green flag sets me free
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub

Brother Rocan this is awesome, I love the old classic look of these and can not wait to see her restored!
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub

Brother Joey, thanks buddy! awesome to hear coming from someone who does such awesome restorations as yourself.

Been studying all day for my exam tomorrow, but I found the time to get all the final paperwork from the PO to get this thing back on the road, and while having a cup of tea (okay, maybe three) I got about 90 percent of the rust off of the rims, using nothing but an old towel, some pretty good ammonia based non-abrasive metal polish, and the age old classic that still comes out top in my book for most stuff- nevr-dull.

Tomorrow following my exam I'm going to get her running and then proceed with cleaning off all of the paint from the plastic by first soaking them in hot water for a while (I believe the paint is latex based), and then hitting it with the pressure cleaner (if I can still find mine, otherwise I'll use the local gas stations :) )

After all that, since it shouldn't take very long at all, I'm going to be doing CB350 stuff, mainly fiberglass.
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub

Final exam tomorrow, so I needed to have myself some relaxing work...

Spent most of the afternoon cleaning all of the nasty grease thats been caked on for years. Got about a pound of sawdust and grease off of the motor, and proceeded to strip off little nick-nacks that need further cleaning, fixing, and paint/restoration.


First I made a new battery for it using the existing wires and new connections. They are the slip on terminals, but I wanted them covered and secure, so I shrink wrapped the wires onto the battery after making sure the connections are nice and secure. This also avoids the chance of a short circuit. I had this battery for nearly a year; Used it as an off camera flash battery once in a while, and what do you know... it's exactly the right size, 6 volts, 4.5ah, and lead acid type. Came out beautifully...



Heres the other things I removed, and labelled... I've learned my lesson from my first bike; organization is key to success, and everything one step at a time.











As she sits...





NEWS FLASH!!! As I wrote this post and uploaded pictures, my doorbell rang. It was the postman dropping off a package, which I found odd as I wasn't expecting anything for a while. What do you know... The parts came in from Bangkok already! thats under a week! and extremely well packaged. HIGHLY recommend the seller. I'll upload pictures in a minute.



P.S. I also made you guys something, I think you'll all appreciate it... I'll show you soon ;)
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

So well packaged... I haven't been this impressed with a seller in years.



Parts are really high quality, even those that are not OEM.

 

crazypj

Split personality, I fake being smart
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

There's about eleventeen bazzillion of them in far east, probably quite a few still running round from 60's ;D
Is the seat sprung with a heavy duty foam then the cover?
I know some were, instead of just foam (can't remember how early though)
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

crazypj said:
There's about eleventeen bazzillion of them in far east, probably quite a few still running round from 60's ;D
Is the seat sprung with a heavy duty foam then the cover?
I know some were, instead of just foam (can't remember how early though)
Yeah it's surprising how many are still around the east, as well as europe.

unsprung, But weighs a TON! unbelievable how much this foam ways. Surely there has to be a lighter, comfier alternative? I think I'm going to go with a seat cover instead of a whole seat since it seems simple enough to change it out.
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

Ta Da!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AxP7xgwA0
 

crazypj

Split personality, I fake being smart
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

OK, put the tank back on, it's rideable ;D
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (GREAT DAY!)

crazypj said:
OK, put the tank back on, it's rideable ;D
You bet! I'll take it for a spin tomorrow after my final. First I will need to get some fuel line and clamps, double check that everything is adjusted ok (front brake is at its limits and needs new pads most likely), grease and oil things, and then fill the tires with some air. I'll also try and register it tomorrow.
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

I have bad luck... Tried to start it again about an hour ago off of the carb hooked up to the tank, and it wouldn't go. pulled the plug and spark was weak. cleaned it up and got a nicer spark, and tried again for a while with no luck. cleaned the carb and still no go. it was getting fuel to the carb, but not to the motor for some reason. Kept kicking it, and next thing I know the kick starter hits the exhaust. So I looked down at it, and of course, the shaft had sheared right in half and is totally buggared. broke completely off the second I tried to take the kick starter off.

Guess I need a new kick starter shaft. Sigh.
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

hillsy said:
Push start it. Should only take about a 2 yard run up.
tried that for about a half hour after the shaft broke. no go. I'll dig into it more tomorrow after my exam and see what I can do.
 

crazypj

Split personality, I fake being smart
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

You probably flooded it too much pouring fuel through carb.
You did poke at the pilot jet with a strand of copper wire?
Probably have an internal drilling in carb body still blocked.
The points are adjustable through a slot in flywheel and are something of a PITA to do
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

crazypj said:
You probably flooded it too much pouring fuel through carb.
You did poke at the pilot jet with a strand of copper wire?
Probably have an internal drilling in carb body still blocked.
The points are adjustable through a slot in flywheel and are something of a PITA to do
You're probably right about the first and third thing you mentioned. Didn't try poking at the pilot, but I bet its dirty. I'm going to have a stab at it tomorrow and in the mean time order a carb rebuild kit.

I saw the points there and thought "wtf, honda!" and was going to ask if I should bother removing the flywheel to adjust them or not.

the starter shaft is a standard spline for most hondas from the 60s, correct? if so I'm thinking it will be a lot cheaper to order one for a more common bike, then cut it off and weld it on to the existing shaft. also I'll probably put a sleeve around the welded area and weld that on for even more strength, then smooth it all out so it looks good. I can't find a replacement shaft anywhere... seems it is common for them to break.


Also, serial number has me believing it is a 1965... hmmm...
 

crazypj

Split personality, I fake being smart
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

It is not common for them to break, it's almost always caused by bad kickstart technique.
You can't adjust the points with the flywheel removed, the points cam is in the center of hub where it fits on taper.
Only reason to remove flywheel is to fit new points/condensor
Be real careful re-tightening if you do, the early models had a small thread on end of crank, it can break off
 

Rocan

"Long after I rest, my steel will live on"
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

Rebuilt the carb cleaning every nook and cranny with terpentine. still didn't go, but I noticed something while checking the spark for the 100th time... it was grounding to the side. Two dollars and 50 cents poorer, and with a new spark plug in, she started after being pushed for just 4 or 5 feet. woohoo!

So I took it for a nice test ride and adjusted the carb a bit. shes running like a champion.

Spent the day cleaning as much paint off of the plastic bodywork as I could using alcohol and a razor blade, and also started on some other nick-nacks.

I've completely rebuilt the front hub; cleaned and regreased everything (original bearings still in great condition), and put it back together, waiting to be installed. also spent at least 4 hours organizing my shop and helping my dad get rid of stuff (being raised broke has left him with a bit of a tool and materials hoarding problem), so overall a very productive day. I wanted to do some stuff for my cb350, but simply didn't have enough space since my basement was so messy.

Pictures tomorrow.
 

The_Beave

The Red Tape Avenger
Re: 1963 Honda C100 Cub (She Lives!)

It is tomorrow. Pictures or GTFO. (Yes, of your own thread! LOL)
 
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