A few thoughts about the DTT community

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I've had an interesting experience over the last few months that I thought I'd comment on. I've become more grateful for this Sleepy Hollow community of ours.

Several months ago when the 5th wheel trailer left and we decided to sell the GMC 2500HD to get something smaller I sort of rediscovered the Ford Maverick. We've been very happy w/ the Escape hybrid we got in '23 and when I found out the Maverick hybrid uses the same drive train as the Escape and the interior controls are nearly identical it seemed like the ideal small truck for our use. The search began! Typical for me when I vehicle search, I quickly knew exactly what trim level, options, and colors (anything but black!) I wanted and pretty much everything available in a 200 mile radius. A sabbatical for shoulder replacement surgery slowed the search a bit but as soon as the doc gave his okie dokie for me to drive I was back at it. Eventually I ended up w/ this:

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Did I say no black? Yeah, a '24 w/ 3,000 miles at a very, very good price, I guess black ain't so bad after all.

Anyway, I wanted to start learning more about the things so I joined an online Maverick Truck group. And now comes the point of this missive: Holy crap, talk about a busy place! I honestly was, and remain, shocked by the amount of traffic. I'm very sure that over any given day there are more new posts than we have here in a year, msybe two years! The group started in '21 and there are so many repeated threads about the same subject that it's astounding. Of course there are constant replies to questions that start w/ "Did you search, there are numerous threads about this here" and the same stuff comes up again and again. Thread jacking is rampant. It's very common for the OP to ask a question and receive a good answer w/in one or two replies and then the thread goes on and on and on for days or weeks with HUNDREDS of posts, some are repeats and discussion of the previous good answers, some are total BS and completely contrary to what the correct reply is. And if not that, the thread has been jacked, sometimes repeatedly. And it goes on and on, day after day! Over the years I've been subscribed to numerous groups for cars, trucks, RVs, and motorcycles; most were relatively active and some, like the BMW Motorcycle Owners group were very active. The activity on the Maverick group is so voluminous that I have to reboot my laptop every couple days to keep it from bogging down.

And then there's the huge generational difference and the apparent respect, or lack of respect. The Boomers like me seem to try and stick together and endure the others. Most of the Gen Xers come off as knowledgeable and often make valuable, hands-on, contributions to the overall success of things. Most of the Millennials and the Gen Ys, don't seem to know how to do anything but "throw money at it", don't seem to be able to even change a light bulb, and are filled w/ angst and constantly throw out "what if" questions and loudly pronounce "that isn't right, it shouldn't be that way, it isn't fair!" There is also a constant flow of derision and mockery towards the old fogy Boomers. (Ok, I've probably got the Boomer take on things,). All at the same time I've found the whole experience informative, educational, frustrating, concerning, comical, and unique.

Anyway, my point is that it has made me very happy to come home to Sleepy Hollow and this circle of folks, many of whom I've enjoyed meeting in person, who consistently offer knowledge, information, advice, encouragement, appreciation, support, parts, pictures, criticism, opinions, and friendship. Sure, we have our disagreements and miscreants and it can be slow n sleepy here at times but it's still a pretty good place. Thank you, Tim and everyone else.
 
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This forum was significantly busier 5+ years ago. Xs650.com still gets a decent amount of traffic. A lot has moved over to facebook.

As for the generational divide, most boomers are pretty chill, same with gen X. Millennials seems to be split, the older ones are more similar to gen x having been raised by reactive parents and younger had the proactive parents. My friends and I definitely fell into the feral kids group, where we had no cell phones and the standing rule was be home by dark. Other than that as long as you didn't get caught anything went. Gen Z is a whole different story. Some of my inlaws are gen Z and the internet would have me believe they are typical. No motivation, super codependent, and always have some validation of why they just can't. Remember the youngest millennial at this point is about 30. There are a few whining away online, but for the most part they've settled into careers, have a house and are similar to gen X in that they just want to be left alone.

Gen Z are the loudest about life being unfair. My inlaws car(he claims to be a car guy, with an automotive class) constantly has problems. Latest one his honda went into limp mode due to low oil, he had to have a shop diagnose and fix it. My sister in law is 21 and constantly comes up with any reason to not get her license. She's had a car sitting in the driveway for 9 months now, just waiting for her to get licensed. My australian inlaw can't even check his own oil. Bought a truck I recommended against and is now shocked by how many places a vehicle can leak from.
 
FB ruined things. It's easier to spout off etc. but all the knowledge gets lost in un searchable crappy UI of FB. This place is the last bastion of good folks and if it ever crashes I will be lost LOL. I've had similar experiences on some other forums. Piloteers.org has been great but it's active members are a small group like here. Bolt EV has some good folks but a lot of folks who just piss me off LOL. I put up a repair thread for the under tray I did. It's not like an ICE car where you just rip it off and toss it when it gets busted, It protects $$$$ parts and so when I was doing my ATF drain fill @ 100K Miles I also took the times to repair and re-enforce the belly pan with fiberglass. Some folks thanked me, some called me cheap, some just said why didn't you just take it to the dealer LOL. New tray was over $500 and would be damaged as bad the first winter as the original. I fixed mine and made it stronger in all the places it needed to be for less than $100.
 
The Maverick is new so it will generate a lot of interest. In 97 I bought a Kia Sephia. A budget car grocery getter for my wife. She was teaching at the time and drove it to and from school a total of 5 miles a day. Grocery day would add a couple of miles. We took it on two fairly long trips and hated it both times. A few years later the middle son started driving it. It was the height of the NOPI thing and the 1st Gen Sephia was a prime candidate. Cheap, easy to find and a very active internet forum. We did a lot of modifications to it, four wheel disc brakes, improved suspension, electrical upgrades all courtesy of forum information. I checked the Kia forum today, the last post was in 2020. Cafe Racers are a niche thing too. We have a pretty wide base of interesting projects which adds to the this forums appeal. I do think FB has pulled people away from the forums. I see it on other sites. Generational trends also affect forum participation. It's just the way things flow.

By the way the Kia was totaled one afternoon and replaced with a Focus ZX3. That forum was hot too, until is wasn't. Now the few posts are either selling or asking how to fix something. I have an OBS Ford pickup. That forum runs hot and cold.
 
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