A Kiwi build from scratch

Tune-A-Fish said:
I like the Harley power, Have you given any thought to the Buell XB12 motor? the way it hangs, the compact 5-speed, constant mesh transmission and the intake manifolds seem right for this project. Just a thought... It's a beauty too :p

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The Buell Rotax engine would be an absolute screamer for sure, but comes with a few more issues to sort out. The first is why I never brought one of the last Buells, radiators, they have to go somewhere and am yet to find a good looking place to put em. If I used one of these engines or a KTM LC8 I would have to run a rad and also fuel pumps, ECU and a s#!t load more wiring to run the injection. Bike motors this side of the world are few and far between, and the reason for me getting the 883 and not a 1200 or XB12 was primarily cost. This engine owes me around $3000 NZD landed with all the govt paperwork. A 1200 was going to be $7000 and up. In hindsight with how this is now going, a XB9/12 motor would have been the better option, but this is what I have to play with.
I looked at all sorts of V twins and kept coming back to the Harley. Once I get the bike finished and built, I will more than likely build the engine with a stroker kit and bits. I have set myself a $8-10K budget to complete, which will include $2500 for new wheels. maybe next bike I build perhaps, after I build my next car ;)
 
kiwiguy said:
totally agree, butt welds are weak and show you have made a mistake. this is just 1" tube and bends I had at home to get things in place to start. as you can see, I am not that good to get the frame nailed in the first attempt so didn't want to waste money on chromoly pipe a this stage. once I have everything worked out and a roughly measured I will redo the frame again in the size material I will end up using and make a jig to suit, buy me a nice JD2 pipe bender and bend me some chromoly pipe.

It's funny that you say that. I have literally assembled entire tube framed race cars from scratch with JD2 bender. No idea the model, it's a ratcheting type manual bender, have had it for 15 plus years. Gorgeous bends for the price!

For the curious, here's the JD bender site.

https://www.jd2.com/
 
Sav0r said:
It's funny that you say that. I have literally assembled entire tube framed race cars from scratch with JD2 bender. No idea the model, it's a ratcheting type manual bender, have had it for 15 plus years. Gorgeous bends for the price!

For the curious, here's the JD bender site.

https://www.jd2.com/
I am looking at this one
https://www.jd2.com/p-32-model-3-bender.aspx
bang for buck, it looks the ducks nuts!! Just waiting a bit for the exchange rate to come back in my favour, which I don't think will be any time soon
 
Tim said:
This is bloody epic - will catch up on this build after the Alabama weekend coming up.
Oh, whats happening in Alabama this weekend?? Have you got a ride on?? We just had our "The Distinguished Gentleman's Ride" on last weekend, had an excellent turn out.
 
It's the motorcycliest thing of all classicky motorcycledom this weekend...Barber.

Make the pilgrimage sometime; you won't regret it. Museum alone is worth the price of admission, but add the festival weekend and racing to the mix and it's almost literally the Haj.
 
Search the site for 'mama tried' and you'll find the 2014 discussion and photos.

70,000 people including a few hundred DTT members converge on Moody Alabama every October for the Barber Vintage Festival and DTT Mama Tried get together.

Videos on YouTube also :)

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I didn't put two and two together, I have heard of the Barber Vintage Festival, just didn't now it was in Alabama. I have will definitely be heading there one day on my next trip state side. I have been following the progress of one of the most iconic motorcycle names to come out of New Zealand, the Britten Motorcycle. Barber Vintage Museum has the current largest ever collection of 9 out of the 10 Britten's ever built, there for this weekend, if you haven't seen these works of art, it as an absolute must!! John Britten was so far ahead of his time and was the main reason I wanted to build a bike. The Britten V1000 was completely designed and built by John in his garage in Christchurch NZ.
the first pic below is at the Barber Museum posted early this week I think
 

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I watched the documentary on him.....awesome in every way.
Talk about determination and perseverance + the bikes are real purddy
 
kiwiguy said:
I didn't put two and two together, I have heard of the Barber Vintage Festival, just didn't now it was in Alabama. I have will definitely be heading there one day on my next trip state side. I have been following the progress of one of the most iconic motorcycle names to come out of New Zealand, the Britten Motorcycle. Barber Vintage Museum has the current largest ever collection of 9 out of the 10 Britten's ever built, there for this weekend, if you haven't seen these works of art, it as an absolute must!! John Britten was so far ahead of his time and was the main reason I wanted to build a bike. The Britten V1000 was completely designed and built by John in his garage in Christchurch NZ.
the first pic below is at the Barber Museum posted early this week I think
Well if 9 out of ten are in Alabama I know where the tenth one is because I saw it at the Solvang motorcycle museum in California. The bikes look even better up close!
 
Great project, I admire your determination! My dream is to build a bike from scratch as you are doing, in fact I did design one once around an XS650 Yam engine (those engines are bloody heavy), maybe one day but with a Kawi ex650 engine a much better choice. Anyway I will continue to watch your build it is very interesting. My one thought is are you making stuff up as you go along from a picture in your head. It would be way easier to draw it up first using the dimensions from your parts and the geometry that you would like yo use, just a thought :)
 
johnu said:
Great project, I admire your determination! My dream is to build a bike from scratch as you are doing, in fact I did design one once around an XS650 Yam engine (those engines are bloody heavy),
that was another bike I looked at also, love the old school look of the parllel twin, but ended up with the V.
johnu said:
My one thought is are you making stuff up as you go along from a picture in your head. It would be way easier to draw it up first using the dimensions from your parts and the geometry that you would like yo use, just a thought :)
Fair enough comment, but I am not very good at the drawing side of things, my picture would turn out looking like this
 

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and would more than likely end up building something like this
 

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johnu said:
My one thought is are you making stuff up as you go along from a picture in your head.
I have a picture in my head that I want to finish with, when I come to a problem, I alter the design in my head to see what I think will be the best end result. I think something like this you just have to get in there and give it a go and just have a "she'll be right" attitude and roll with it. Below is the last thing I built from scratch, start with an idea in your head and run with it, whats the worst that can happen??
Like my dad always said to me, "if it was easy, everyone would do it"
 

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Rustyhama said:
You turbocharged ya V8 commodore? Classic

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Ha, yeah. Was in a ute too. Made 330rwKw on pump gas running 5psi
 

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that is brialliant you got my vote ! and the design phillofosee you have is much like my own ...i learned from my dad about design,as a youngster there was alwways a project in the garage, but like you i morphed into strictly my head wheres dad would draw up everything in scale on paper,part of the reason he did that was his job,designer trouble shooter building military vehicles personell carriers and tanks
he always would say how do build it just out of your head ? its is a fine gift you have being able to brain see that clearly
 
this would be a radical departure from what you are doing now but have you consider doing a trellis type consruction? it may need to be perimeter to have the bottom runners of the trellis outside the jugs but it can be done in a smaller size of tube like you are using and there would very few bends anywhere that is the idea of it
the engine would just be on hangers not structural at all
the beauty of this method is you can build concept prototypes without even cutting,fitting or even have in place all of the tubes that would be in final version
plus i think it would be a lot of fun tumbling the thing around upstairs
 
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