Father Son 75 CB200T Rise From the Ruins

Texasstar

Can't is a four letter dirty word
Howdy y'all from Texas! My son wanted to learn how to work on bikes so here it goes! We bought a little CB200T that was one of Tony's project bikes from L and L Cycle Dallas. We walked in at just the right time and snagged it. It had a seized engine and after two week of diesel and Marvel Mystery oil we decided to yank the engine. The last time she was tagged was June of 85. In two weeks we have learned so much from DTT and Honda Twin. I will try to post progress weekly.
 

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Week one we poured Marvel Mystery Oil into the cylinders and started on the breakdown. Everything seemed to arrive when we needed it. My neighbor brought us an impact screw driver. In the spirit of Cafe Racers we are trying to do this as lean as possible. We discovered Metal Rescue from our local Honda dealer. Metal Rescue is water based and heat activated. It works best above 68 degrees. We were amazed just drop it in and depending on the degree of rust anywhere from 2-24 hours. We removed the carbs and the inner rear mud guard.
 

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Week two we made a redneck parts cleaner with a gallon jug, simple green, HOT water, duct tape, and a sander. We got our manual in the mail and the carb kits came in Friday just in time for work on the weekend. We disassembled the carbs and put the parts in the simple green and hot water and set the timer for 20 minute increments. We pulled them out and brushed them, shot them with carburetor cleaner, and the compressed air. We took them to the table for assemble and took a dremel with a soft brush to take care of the stuck rings etc. We also hooked her up to life support with 5 gallons of diesel, 8 quarts of Marvel Mystery Oil with a pump and two containment units. Carb slide were stuck and nothing worked until we poured hot soapy water into them and voila they slide right out. The last picture is our clean carb.
 

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Wow week three the motor was still seized so we decided to pull it. The valves on the left side of the engine seemed to be closed so we saw how you could pump grease into a cylinder to break her free. We cut off the end of our old spark pluck and welded it to the tip of our grease gun. The valves leaked and out came the grease. So we removed the head, removed a link from the timing chain with a dremel.
 

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That's a good start! I've done the hot water trick before, works like a charm! This should be a fun one to watch. Keep it up.
 
Very cool man. Great to see the young ones getting involved and their hands dirty.

I know you're doing this on a tight budget (arent we all? ;) ) but a good place to spend some coin is on new sprosprockets and a chain. Putting a new chain on the old sprockets will cause the chain amd spro to wear more rapidly and unevenly.
 
Thanks y'all we plan on replacing the chain and sprockets it is just fun to watch them get shiny and new looking.

Week 3 part b
We made a cylinder removing tool out of a 2 by 4. The head revealed one stuck valve. The pistons were at the top of the stroke so we pulled out the mojo momma mull and mom held the 2 by 4 and we went to swinging. It took about 6 blows for it to be at the bottom of the stroke. We then put the engine back in the chassis and bolted her down and connected the chain. We turned the back wheel and bumped the jug loose from the casing. Blocking the jug from the casing we continued striking the pistons with our modified tool and shimmed as we finally liberated the pistons from the jug.
 

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Week 1 video highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJaHu33Zexc&feature=share&list=UUOm_dzAtaif27WLbbUOYCzQ
 
Week 2 video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMoCQ9qO8Bg&feature=share&list=UUOm_dzAtaif27WLbbUOYCzQ
 
Week 3 video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbUQUaEPcBs&feature=share&list=UUOm_dzAtaif27WLbbUOYCzQ
 
Probably the most wonderful thing I've seen in a long time. Father and son sharing a passion, making memories, and haveing fun. We need more dads like you, sir. This world would be far better off.
 
kneedragger74 said:
Probably the most wonderful thing I've seen in a long time. Father and son sharing a passion, making memories, and haveing fun. We need more dads like you, sir. This world would be far better off.

Kneedragger thanks we owe it all to mom. When I told my son of the bike I had found. He said, "I know you are the man of the house but don't you think we should ask mom first." She said yes but has laid some ground rules since then after finding her colander out in the shed. LOL. Theoretically you can fit a CB engine in the oven and you can clean carbs and make dinner at the same time in a crock pot with crock pot liners...theoretically. :)
 
Texasstar said:
Theoretically you can fit a CB engine in the oven and you can clean carbs and make dinner at the same time in a crock pot with crock pot liners...theoretically. :)

Brilliant! Keep up the good work, I'm subscribed!
 
Thank subscribing we are very grateful for DTT. Mom told us we could use anything as long as we didn't leave anything toxic. We found several products that are AMAZING and non toxic. Metal Rescue and Simple Green. In trying to unseize the engine we even flipped her upside down and poured it in the crankcase. We plan on replacing the chain and sprocket for grins we took the whole rusty mess after soaking it in oil and put it in the Metal Rescue
 

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My son wants to use Steve's Cafe Scramble for inspiration
 

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The first tool you need - an impact screwdriver. My neighbor Mark let us borrow his grandads. http://youtu.be/CHdM-HHGGhk
 
"Dad we need to make a cologne out of this smell...we can call it the grease monkey." We high jacked mom's garden fountain and turned it into a Honda CB fountain. Very Zen but it didn't work. http://youtu.be/umlJixSDOJs
 
You will need an impact screwdriver, and dont get one from harbor freight. They dont work very well and the bits arnt as strong as they should be, ive twisted multiple phillips bits. You will use it alot so get a good one.
 
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