Gretta sucks.

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Kanticoy

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I was on another new member's thread earlier and offered help with their upcoming cb360 mono shock build if they needed it and posted a picture of Gretta. I had no idea that i had created such a piece of shit until Swivel informed me. I'm glad her pointed this stuff out. Back to building cupcakes for me i suppose.

The following is a compendium of the string of pm's I received within 5 minutes of posting. I'm sorry for leading you guys on for so long.

"Your barn job engineering is dire on so many levels beyond my mere opinion.Do your own research on suspension design and chassis work like Egli,Tony Foale and Bimota.

You are in love with your baby,and that's fine but don't pretend to influence young nOOBs who actually may think you know what you are doing.Your bike is not an example of good safe engineering.Period.

I'm not going to write a detailed engineering and design analysis on your rear suspension setup.If it doesn't fail in use for you thats fine by me.

I reread your post:what a lot of frog shit.Looking closely I noticed your rear shock mount is welded to ONE flexy tube on two welds in shear to the direction of the shock movement.I'm 100% sure mister.Don't pretend to be an accomplished expert:you are not."
 
How in GODs name is that ass still around? How many citizens of this fine community is he going to troll before someone finally kicks down his door?
 
Kiley, I feel your pain brother.

I think this thread needs to be constantly bumped as well for all to see.
 
Let's see your work Drivel.

Are you aware of the can o' worms you are opening?
 
Oh goodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoodyggodygoodygoodygoodygoodygoody!

This...IS THE START OF THE ZOMBIE APOCOLYPSE!!!!!
;D
 
I hesitate to get into this since I'm only just getting to know some of you but really, lets see some work.
 
The bike in question is the brown cb360 in the pic. Gretta. In front of a large portion of DTT. Also my cb400f that i built. And Iron and Air. And Deus Ex Machina, etc. etc. etc....in my shop which i also built. Which is probably unsafe as well.
 

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And Brad was worried about a bat being pulled on him if he went to Barber........
 
Re: Re: Gretta sucks.

Swivel said:
Is that photo intended to impress?

Time to avoid the pissin'barrel and design a bike....bye for this hour.

Not intended to impress. Just showing you what it's like to screw with family. The kind that gets together and builds bikes, shares homes, develops friendships and community, and overall improves the lives of one another. That picture is what DTT is about. Not the self imposed loathing that you constantly inspire.

Go design a bike and have fun with your crayons.
 
"I AM" what exactly? Impressive? Sure, but not in a good way.

And please define how you think I'm preppy. I really do want to hear it.
 
No man, you can't go off on Rich, Kiley, or the rest of these guys like that. The thing about these guys is like you have alluded in the past: None is a professional bike engineer or designer. These are guys work jobs to support their families, and work on their bikes as a diversion. They might not be 100% correct, but they don't bill as such. Any one of these guys is genuine enough to admit it and take guidance from a true master. They would admit their failings, and seek the counsel to correct the problem. I've seen it happen on many occasion, and I have been the recipient of that school myself. This has nothing to do with being able to take criticism or not, or even whether these bikes are built "properly" or not.

The problem stems for your manner, and even more, your inability to prove yourself as any kind of authority. This is not to imply what you are or what you are not--simply that you have failed to gird yourself with any authority other than the same kind of self -serving importance acted out on the internet everyday. You see, to be a true "Master", and attract (you cannot demand) a following of people eager to learn, you must first prove that you are worth following. It is a skeptical world, my friend, and to simply state facts (which can be gathered from anywhere, even if it is the memory) without a single scrap of tangible evidence garners you nothing more than proof that you have the ability to cite facts. Worse, to defensively attack people with the same flimsy crediblity is only to invite a hostile response which will render any reputation you might have gained with your facts entirely useless. In short, you arrive at a point where No One wants to hear what you have to say, useful or not.

"But", you might scoff, "I don't care what people think I have to say!" and "I don't have to prove anything to anyone!" I wonder then what your true motive for joining this forum is in the first place actually is. I know many masters of trades who do not care for the opinions of others, and care even less to impart their knowledge to anyone. That is their right. However, they prove that they can maintain those principles by never engaging in an instance to the contrary of those principles!

I look to the likes of Teazer, HoofHearted, and Beachcomber, who repeatedly and excitedly divulge the information they possess to the members of this forum. This includes pictures from the past and present engaged with the machines of their expertise. They actually hold records. They can prove it. But they don't have to--they want to.

In sharp contrast, your performance has stood out with phrases like "I don't need to impress.I AM" and the like, without a single scrap of evidence to show why we should believe you over the "breaking" reports of the New Penis Enlarging Pump that so frequent the interwebs. I am happy for you if you believe the painting you have tried to present to us. I remain unconvinced.


But leave my friends alone.
 
Swivel said:
Quote:"This has nothing to do with being able to take criticism or not, or even whether these bikes are built "properly" or not."

Go hold your friends hands.I criticized a crappy swingarm not your friends.

"This" meaning the current disagreement, hate, and discontent, not your criticism.

To resort to petty name calling for "preppy" and other such trivialities seems to indicate the contrary...and if they are in rebuttal to the comments made by others, then it would seem that the next point is blatantly false:


I have never expected or asked for respect,I neither desire it or do I need it.If people want to think I'm full of shit:I'm happy with that.If they think I'm wikiSwivel,I'm happy with that as well.

Since you do not expect or demand respect, are we to infer automatically that everything you say is meaningless? As I said, what is your point in being here, then? More importantly, if you do not demand respect, or care what opinion people hold of you, why do you have to present a defensive attitude and resort to name-calling and derogatory remarks to make your point?


Q:"I remain unconvinced".Fine by me:believe what you like.Do you honestly think an affirmation from you would be of any value to me?If you think I'm a fool why even respond?There is the flaw in your logic.


I don't particularly care what is of value to you. Nor did I make assumptions on your knowlege; merely your presentation. I believe most of your presence here to be for the purpose of causing disturbance, and not for any other reason, as you so clearly stated above. I don't even believe you a fool, and my logic stands.
 
Swivel why buddy, why who hurt you? Was it your dad, did he put one to many smokes out on your back right befor his climax. Was it your "she said she was 18" did you finally get her all alone only to find out that some of your daddy stains didnt all wash off in the shower and circle the drain with your blood. Couldnt you or wouldnt you perform. Has he scared you so deep and jagged that you feel the need to talk down to everybody that is doing anything with a motorcycle. While a cb anything wouldnt be my first choice for a build that doesnt change the fact that,that bike is time tested, like live tv our mistakes and wins are shared. in the 4 or 5 years ive know kiley and his 360 ive never known of any problems with the design. Annnnnnnd unlike your famous sr it is real. So in closing while i would help kiley fix any of his "poorly built bikes" on the side of the road i wouldnt piss on you if you was on fire. I know you care about what i think as much as i care about what you think, but i would take a broken hack built bike and friends over being you any day
OXOX
 
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