axeugene27
Over 1,000 Posts
does it do a front flip when you tap that front brake. Jk it turned out super awesome-sauce.
Hi From Australia CB350
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KaaoSkitzofreniK
New Member
This is a great looking bike, i just joined this forum today and this was the first thread i sat and read all the way through. It's a beautiful example of what can be done out of one's garage! I haven't touched my cl450 in months for lack of tools and patience.... Ireally hope being on here and seeing bikes like yours can get me back into working on what i want.
deepwaterimports
Over 1,000 Posts
this may help guys
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP8_Section_LL_Motor-Cycles_and_3WheelVehicles_01Jan2011_v2.pdf
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP8_Section_LL_Motor-Cycles_and_3WheelVehicles_01Jan2011_v2.pdf
Thx Ted it's been a bit of a love/hate thing. I love tinkering in the shed and I've mostly loved working on this project. At times tho I have wanted to push it over a cliff...
Thanks for that link deepwater. Looks like it'll be very useful. I'll examine it a little more closely tonight.
I'll let you know how I get on Pand. With any luck I'll have Rego by Xmas. I'm in NSW tho so rules here may not apply up in Qld
Thanks for that link deepwater. Looks like it'll be very useful. I'll examine it a little more closely tonight.
I'll let you know how I get on Pand. With any luck I'll have Rego by Xmas. I'm in NSW tho so rules here may not apply up in Qld
What's this? An update with no pictures??!? That is unnacceptable. Unfortunately that's all there is. Piccies later. This post will be very boring and probably of no use to anyone outside NSW and certainly of no use to those outside Australia.
So I've started the process of registration. An important thing to know upfront is that the RTA (Roads and Traffic Authority) does not exist anymore. It is now the RMS (Road and Maritime Services). Why the change and what it means is anybodies guess but from a practical point if view it means some of the websites have RMS in the URL and some have RTA. This is a little confusing until the RMS finishes rolling out their new services.
To get a bike registered in NSW with no Rego papers requires a blue slip. This is primarily just a rubber stamp type vehicle identity check to note the engine and frame numbers and make sure nothing is stolen. They also confirm all the lights work, the horn works etc. If the bike has never been registered before OR has had substantial modifications since previously being registered then you need to get the modifications certified before getting the blue slip. This is what used to be called the engineer's certificate. The certification process for this has also changed. It is now done under the supervision of VSSCS another new government office. It stands for Vehicle Safety Standards Certification Scheme and there are a list of certified inspectors on the RMS website. Each inspector has their own areas of expertise so you need to be sure the one you deal with can do motorcycles. They will inspect your bike, make sure it (hopefully) complies with whatever legal requirements were in place at the date of manufacture of the bike and will notify the RMS that your bike is able to be registered. They will also give you a hard copy of the Certificate of Compliance which you need to keep and pass on to any future owner of the bike.
Once you have your certification, you then go get your blue slip from any one of many auto shops. Then you get your CTP insurance, visit the local registery office, pay them a squillion dollars and bingo! Your bike's registered!
So I've started the process of registration. An important thing to know upfront is that the RTA (Roads and Traffic Authority) does not exist anymore. It is now the RMS (Road and Maritime Services). Why the change and what it means is anybodies guess but from a practical point if view it means some of the websites have RMS in the URL and some have RTA. This is a little confusing until the RMS finishes rolling out their new services.
To get a bike registered in NSW with no Rego papers requires a blue slip. This is primarily just a rubber stamp type vehicle identity check to note the engine and frame numbers and make sure nothing is stolen. They also confirm all the lights work, the horn works etc. If the bike has never been registered before OR has had substantial modifications since previously being registered then you need to get the modifications certified before getting the blue slip. This is what used to be called the engineer's certificate. The certification process for this has also changed. It is now done under the supervision of VSSCS another new government office. It stands for Vehicle Safety Standards Certification Scheme and there are a list of certified inspectors on the RMS website. Each inspector has their own areas of expertise so you need to be sure the one you deal with can do motorcycles. They will inspect your bike, make sure it (hopefully) complies with whatever legal requirements were in place at the date of manufacture of the bike and will notify the RMS that your bike is able to be registered. They will also give you a hard copy of the Certificate of Compliance which you need to keep and pass on to any future owner of the bike.
Once you have your certification, you then go get your blue slip from any one of many auto shops. Then you get your CTP insurance, visit the local registery office, pay them a squillion dollars and bingo! Your bike's registered!
RustyOlive
Been Around the Block
Good lord!! Thats one hell of a sharp looking 350!
Re: Hi From Australia CB350 FINISHED!!!
Thanks Rusty. I'm very pleased with the way it's turned out!
So after going over the background information required for registration in NSW in my previous post, here are the specifics of where I'm up to with the process.
I took the bike to Peter Gillard in Leichhardt for road-worthy inspection to get the Certificate of Compliance a few weeks ago. Expecting the worst in terms of draconian, finicky nit-picking I found him to be very pleasant to deal with, thoroughly professional and very sympathetic to the time and effort that goes into bringing these old buckets back to life. He went over the bike from front to back and after a brief fright with the noise meter (100.4dB instead of <100dB at rpm of half maximum power for pre '74 motorcycle) he decided near enough was good enough and that there were only 4 things that I had to do in order to earn myself a Certificate of Compliance, the motorcycle builder's equivalent of a nugget of gold. To get my hands on one of these mythical, much spoken of but rarely seen pieces of treasure I needed to:
1. weigh the bike
2. change the bar end mirror to be flat instead of concave
3. somehow get a functioning speedo
4. mount a vertical piece of reflective material visible from the rear of the bike
Not having ready access to a weigh bridge, I ended up weighing the bike with the front and rear wheel in turn resting on the bathroom scales and adding the two together. This gave 150kg with half a tank of fuel which was a bit heavier than I was hoping for but whatever, who cares? Then bought myself a cheap piece of crap bar end mirror with flat glass and stuck a reflector on the back just above the number plate mount position.
Having jumped through those hoops, I then had to somehow find a cable that would work with a honda speedo at one end and a Harley speedo drive at the other. Took the speedo and the drive to Automotive Instruments in Lidcombe and they custom made a cable to the length I specified. One week and $86 later, it was mounted on the bike. Still doesn't actually work because of some issues with the internal cable being slightly short Fortunately my very helpful and understanding inspector did not insist on seeing the speedo actually working but accepted that the cable mounted in the correct position was enough for compliance. I still have no idea if the Harley drive will turn at the correct speed for the honda gauge not to mention the different diameter front wheel that is now in the bike and what influence that may have. But whatevs...who cares?
So all the requirements have now been addressed and I have the coveted Certificate of Compliance carefully placed in a bulletproof hermetically sealed container locked in a safe. A quick trip to get the rubber stamp blue slip from the local garage, a few phone calls to track down the cheapest CTP insurance and then down to the registry office for final registration. Almost had a disaster when they asked me for a receipt of purchase or other proof of ownership. They didn't care when I told them that I had nobly rescued this poor motorcycle after a decade of languishing lost and alone in a farmers paddock, they just wanted the damn receipt. Which I didn't have. I quickly wrote a Statutory Declaration to the effect that I had been gifted the bike by the farmer who wanted to get rid of it and handed it to a JP to sign which he did without reading it or even asking me any questions about it. I could have asked him to sign over all his worldly possessions including his wife and daughters and he probably would have. I paid them my squillion for registration fees and then, finally, the moment I'd been waiting for...the RTA office clerk slowly walked towards me and reverentially placed on the table in front of me the Holy Grail. A NSW motorcycle registration plate. I tried to speak but found myself unable to...I was too choked up. With my eyes misting, I somehow managed to mumble thanks and I grabbed the plate and ran out of the office before the bastards could change their minds.
So that's the end! All done! Next project...Ducati 750F1
But the reality is it's never really all done, is it? I still have to get the bugger to run properly. Fiddle with the jets to get it to rev to red line. Maybe upgrade the rear shocks. Maybe fork out for Mikunis. Maybe fix the right foot peg which impedes the travel of the kick start lever rendering it useless etc etc. Or maybe just ride the damn thing.
Sooooo....here it is!
Thank you to all who have commented and got involved along the way. It's been quite a trip and I've learned a lot, mostly about what a great resource DTT is for newbies and experienced builders alike. This is a great place to learn the ins and outs of bike building and is a constant source of inspiration!
Comments and criticisms welcome!
Thanks Rusty. I'm very pleased with the way it's turned out!
So after going over the background information required for registration in NSW in my previous post, here are the specifics of where I'm up to with the process.
I took the bike to Peter Gillard in Leichhardt for road-worthy inspection to get the Certificate of Compliance a few weeks ago. Expecting the worst in terms of draconian, finicky nit-picking I found him to be very pleasant to deal with, thoroughly professional and very sympathetic to the time and effort that goes into bringing these old buckets back to life. He went over the bike from front to back and after a brief fright with the noise meter (100.4dB instead of <100dB at rpm of half maximum power for pre '74 motorcycle) he decided near enough was good enough and that there were only 4 things that I had to do in order to earn myself a Certificate of Compliance, the motorcycle builder's equivalent of a nugget of gold. To get my hands on one of these mythical, much spoken of but rarely seen pieces of treasure I needed to:
1. weigh the bike
2. change the bar end mirror to be flat instead of concave
3. somehow get a functioning speedo
4. mount a vertical piece of reflective material visible from the rear of the bike
Not having ready access to a weigh bridge, I ended up weighing the bike with the front and rear wheel in turn resting on the bathroom scales and adding the two together. This gave 150kg with half a tank of fuel which was a bit heavier than I was hoping for but whatever, who cares? Then bought myself a cheap piece of crap bar end mirror with flat glass and stuck a reflector on the back just above the number plate mount position.
Having jumped through those hoops, I then had to somehow find a cable that would work with a honda speedo at one end and a Harley speedo drive at the other. Took the speedo and the drive to Automotive Instruments in Lidcombe and they custom made a cable to the length I specified. One week and $86 later, it was mounted on the bike. Still doesn't actually work because of some issues with the internal cable being slightly short
Fortunately my very helpful and understanding inspector did not insist on seeing the speedo actually working but accepted that the cable mounted in the correct position was enough for compliance. I still have no idea if the Harley drive will turn at the correct speed for the honda gauge not to mention the different diameter front wheel that is now in the bike and what influence that may have. But whatevs...who cares?So all the requirements have now been addressed and I have the coveted Certificate of Compliance carefully placed in a bulletproof hermetically sealed container locked in a safe. A quick trip to get the rubber stamp blue slip from the local garage, a few phone calls to track down the cheapest CTP insurance and then down to the registry office for final registration. Almost had a disaster when they asked me for a receipt of purchase or other proof of ownership. They didn't care when I told them that I had nobly rescued this poor motorcycle after a decade of languishing lost and alone in a farmers paddock, they just wanted the damn receipt. Which I didn't have. I quickly wrote a Statutory Declaration to the effect that I had been gifted the bike by the farmer who wanted to get rid of it and handed it to a JP to sign which he did without reading it or even asking me any questions about it. I could have asked him to sign over all his worldly possessions including his wife and daughters and he probably would have. I paid them my squillion for registration fees and then, finally, the moment I'd been waiting for...the RTA office clerk slowly walked towards me and reverentially placed on the table in front of me the Holy Grail. A NSW motorcycle registration plate. I tried to speak but found myself unable to...I was too choked up. With my eyes misting, I somehow managed to mumble thanks and I grabbed the plate and ran out of the office before the bastards could change their minds.
So that's the end! All done! Next project...Ducati 750F1
But the reality is it's never really all done, is it? I still have to get the bugger to run properly. Fiddle with the jets to get it to rev to red line. Maybe upgrade the rear shocks. Maybe fork out for Mikunis. Maybe fix the right foot peg which impedes the travel of the kick start lever rendering it useless etc etc. Or maybe just ride the damn thing.
Sooooo....here it is!
Thank you to all who have commented and got involved along the way. It's been quite a trip and I've learned a lot, mostly about what a great resource DTT is for newbies and experienced builders alike. This is a great place to learn the ins and outs of bike building and is a constant source of inspiration!
Comments and criticisms welcome!
deepwaterimports
Over 1,000 Posts
Beautiful is the only thing that comes to mind well done looks amazing
peteGSX
Zuk's Rock!
Mate that's just awesome work! And I'm referring to getting it registered by that comment... I've already told you how awesome the bike is
I specifically avoided all structural modifications on my GS450 and did everything by their modification handbook specifically to avoid going through such a run around with Qld Transport.
From everything I've heard and seen up here so far, the process is at least as complicated as NSW's and maybe even more so...
Having said that, the mobile roadworthy guy was very easy going and it seemed that as long as you'd put the effort in to make it safe, he was happy. He didn't even test ride it so that I could pop its cherry myself.
Anyway, very very glad you got her registered and she's definitely looking great! A very sweet ride...
I specifically avoided all structural modifications on my GS450 and did everything by their modification handbook specifically to avoid going through such a run around with Qld Transport.
From everything I've heard and seen up here so far, the process is at least as complicated as NSW's and maybe even more so...
Having said that, the mobile roadworthy guy was very easy going and it seemed that as long as you'd put the effort in to make it safe, he was happy. He didn't even test ride it so that I could pop its cherry myself.
Anyway, very very glad you got her registered and she's definitely looking great! A very sweet ride...
Dutch Von Shed
Active Member
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Thanks everyone for the kind words
Neevo, it hasn't been nominated for BOTM and I'd be very flattered if it was. But in a sense I don't believe it should be or if it was, then it certainly shouldn't win. There is not much on this bike that I actually made myself. It is pretty much a bike bolted together from after market parts that anyone could buy. The parts of the build that required any skill (getting the front axle to fit the hub, getting the discs to fit the hub, getting the stem to fit the triple clamps, making the tank and seat, the paint etc) were all done by others. I literally just bolted it all together. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks great! I love it but I think BOTM candidates should be genuine builds not pseudo builds!
Anyway, as I was saying before these types of projects are never really finished so here's an update for work done today. I had forgotten to connect the breather on the top of the cam/rocker box to anything. It was just sitting there as follows:
Given that the air box has been removed this breather now has nothing to connect to so I had to think of some sort of collector bottle to collect the potential oil mist that could spray out every time I ride the bike. I didn't want just any old bottle, I wanted to have something unique, something that related to me personally and something a little wacky. This is what I came up with for the collector bottle… an empty bottle of volatile anaesthetic agent.
The hose to the collector is a large venous cannula. It collects venous blood from either the superior vena cava or inferior vena cava and carries it into a cardiopulmonary bypass circuit during heart surgery.
All fits together nicely with the bottle mounted on top of the tool box!
Neevo, it hasn't been nominated for BOTM and I'd be very flattered if it was. But in a sense I don't believe it should be or if it was, then it certainly shouldn't win. There is not much on this bike that I actually made myself. It is pretty much a bike bolted together from after market parts that anyone could buy. The parts of the build that required any skill (getting the front axle to fit the hub, getting the discs to fit the hub, getting the stem to fit the triple clamps, making the tank and seat, the paint etc) were all done by others. I literally just bolted it all together. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks great! I love it but I think BOTM candidates should be genuine builds not pseudo builds!
Anyway, as I was saying before these types of projects are never really finished so here's an update for work done today. I had forgotten to connect the breather on the top of the cam/rocker box to anything. It was just sitting there as follows:
Given that the air box has been removed this breather now has nothing to connect to so I had to think of some sort of collector bottle to collect the potential oil mist that could spray out every time I ride the bike. I didn't want just any old bottle, I wanted to have something unique, something that related to me personally and something a little wacky. This is what I came up with for the collector bottle… an empty bottle of volatile anaesthetic agent.
The hose to the collector is a large venous cannula. It collects venous blood from either the superior vena cava or inferior vena cava and carries it into a cardiopulmonary bypass circuit during heart surgery.
All fits together nicely with the bottle mounted on top of the tool box!
neevo
Over 1,000 Posts
ducatiboy said:
I think your doing yourself a disservice! Don't get me wrong if you went up against a full custom job you might be in trouble but it would have to be an incredible biuld and ultimately its all about the end result and yours is a top notch!
It's like giving a conductor shit because he's not playing the violins
