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Destruction Boy

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I'm looking at joinging the RAEME (Royal Australian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers).

Anybody here with military experience? What should I expect? Should I do it?
 
Been looking at Vehicle Mechanic ;D

I just don't like the fact I will be stationed away from my girlfriend and family for 6 years...
 
6 years is a long bid. Your family will be there. And girls... well there are lots of girls all over. No disrespect to yours.
 
Just gone 20 in October. We have what we call the ADF Gap Year here in Aus where you pretty much do "basic" basic training for a year and try out all the jobs before you agree to stay on. But if I want to continue that will make it 7 years...

I'm pretty sure you can transfer to reserves if you don't enjoy if and you have to that that for a minimum of 4 years I think?

I just wanted to hear other peoples experience!
 
I was not in the military so I can't comment from a position of knowledge, but form what i have seen in Oz and the US, the Australian defense forces are very well regarded and ex military people are connected in a way that the rest of us will never be.

THink about want to get out of it and if that's the best way to achieve your goals.
 
Was taken around 5RAR in Sydney when I was going up through Air Cadets. Was a bit of a big deal and we saw a lot of stuff we technically shouldn't have... but hell, it was a good weekend.

If you're a vehicle mechanic you'll most likely be a heavy diesel mech. Envision a dozer blade around the size of your average house front. Now imagine a dozer behind it with tracks as high as your average panel van, and an engine block the size of a Hyundai Getz. Those are the type of things you'd work on. Sure, there are smaller and more sophisticated machines, but a lot of them are very big.

Theres also specialised battlefield equipment you'll learn to use, such as portable vehicle and personelle bridges, communication equipment and other groovy stuff. This is all coming from memories of about 8 years ago, and they're still vivid and interesting to me, so I'd tentatively recommend it as a job if you're interested.

A few things though: You will need to be physically fit. You will need to be mentally equipped. You will need to be able to take shit and get out there and do your job, whatever the conditions and whatever that job may be. If you can't deal with that then it won't be a pelasant experience for you.

Otherwise, I'd say check it out. Just be aware that you may be posted overseas to go and lay/search out landmines and do other jobs that you might not forsee.

Cheers - boingk
 
Ok, I'll give you the advice my father gave me.

Join the Air Force or Navy, Don't join the Army. The saying about the Navy is "100 years of tradition unimpeded by technology."

Having been in the Air Force working with guys who used to be in both, I would now say Don't join the Navy ether.

Army. It can be a very hard go. My father did tours in Croatia, Bosnia and Kuwait in the early 90's. Aside from his usual job of repairing equipment, he got to take care of the aftermath that comes from genocide... Guys who are in now are over seas in less than nice places like Afghanistan. All of that comes down to government politics where they want you and when.


In the Canadian Air Force, I do everything listed below for the RNZAF.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/aircraftstructurestechnician-52

(That's actually me the first few seconds in the video cleaning my tail section, I'm the tall one on the left)

In the RNZAF you could do this:

http://www.airforcecareers.mil.nz/Air-Force-Jobs/technical-trades/Pages/Aeronautical-Metal-Worker.aspx

http://www.airforcecareers.mil.nz/Air-Force-Jobs/technical-trades/Pages/Composites-Technician.aspx

http://www.airforcecareers.mil.nz/Air-Force-Jobs/technical-trades/Pages/Machinist.aspx

I cant find the pay grades for the RNZAF... When it comes down to dollars and cents, I make more as a Cpl then a Sgt in the Army. Pay is something to consider.


When it comes down to the life style of the military down there, I cant comment. I just don't know. Do some more research and don't forget about the Air Force.

Did that help at all?
 
You can make a good go of it in any of the armed forces - but you *have* to be self-motivated. Don't know about your armed forces, but when I signed up for the U.S. Navy, I got my technical schooling (avionics) "guaranteed" to me as a condition of my enlistment. I needed good scores on the entrance tests, and the "guarantee" is really only "best effort" - so don't go in thinking the government is legally bound to give you a certain set of training. If they want you to peel potatoes, well, you'll be up to your ears in spuds. However, a good can-do attitude will take you a very long way indeed.

You have to understand that there is a remarkable amount of bureaucratic bullshit in any military branch. Your ability to to carry out the bullshit without bad attitude or insubordination is directly linked to your advancement and placement. In fact, if you demonstrate ample proficiency in whatever task you're given (no matter how trivial or demeaning!), you may find yourself in a position to change things if you go about it the right way - but always remember the chain of command. Never skip it.

Also: understand this: You are at the service of the government. Don't sign up unless you understand what that means.

None of this is meant to scare you off - I had a great 4 years, and I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat. I got to go places I'd never heard of, do things I never imagined, and was given responsibility hard to imagine as a teenager. Plus, I got lots of good stories and bullshit to tell now ;D
 
Great stuff guys! Navy was my first choice when I began looking into the Defence Force about 2 years ago, just giving it real thought now. Air force was second and I didn't really look into army much until I found the Mechanical Engineers.

Sorry, I read some previous comments about "what I want to get out of it" as "would you want to get out of it?". Been a bit tired lately!

Basically I want to get my arse in line. I've always been interested in Military history and it's always been something that's appealed to me. I want to come out of those 4 or 6 years with new mates, experience with working on heavy machinery that the everyday person doesn't usualy do (or even knew existed! :D) and pretty much (excuse the cheesy lame-ness) become a stronger person both mentally and physically.
 
The heavy equiptment is more straight forward across the board except when it comes to the special stuff the engineers use to build bridges, clear mines, troop transport then the tanks and good stuff.

You can learn TONS from the military and it will defenetley give you an edge for any career you decide to take up over "civies". If you got your heart set on recovering/ repairing vehicles in monsoon weather all the more power to you. The military needs people like that too!

Whatever you decide it will be an experience and it will follow you where ever you go.

The military is the best kept secret out there. Total days I work...

365 days a year,
52 weeks = 104 weekend days off
25 days leave a year (after 5 years in) = 129 days off,
stat days off, say 10? plus 5 or so for christmas= 144 days off= I work 221 days a year x 8 hours= about 1768 hours a year for about $60,000 a year = about $33 per hour worked.
Usual is 8 hours a day, some days are longer, some are shorter.
 
I served 8 years in the US Army. Some of it I hated, some of it I loved. None of it I would trade for anything.
 
Spent 10 years active in USAF. Loved the job, just not the employer (US Gov.) :p. I too wouldn't trade a minute of it. Who else would ship your bike to Europe for you and give you 30 days leave every year to take it on great rides! The military life can be great, it's just a different mind set.
 
Don't know if they have such a thing in Oz but I joined the US Air National Guard for 6 years. You go to regular Basic Training to learn the Military way of life, then your Tech School to learn your particular job and after that you're assigned to an active duty base for a few months with the "Regulars" for on the job training (OJT). The length of Tech School varies with your choice of careers. For me to be a Jet Aircraft Crew Chief, all total, I was gone from March to September learning to crew F-4 fighters.
But then I came home to my wife and kids and back to my civilian job. I went to the local Air Base one weekend a month and a 15 day exercise every year we called "Summer Camps". For some it is difficult to keep their Military bearing thoughout the month in order to reel it back in on Drill Weekends.
When you are on the two week exercise you are classified "Active Duty" and all the responsibilities that come along with it. One Summer Camp I was retrained on F-16's when they came out. There is oppertunities for you to travel the world if you volunteer for them. I went to the Azore Islands, Jordan, and Egypt different years that counted as my Summer Camps.
Now if there is a need, they can activate you and jerk your ass where ever they need you. I got out just before Desert Storm. My squadron was there and now has been in Afgahnistan pulling sorties right next to the regular guys on rotation since this began.
Just another option to consider... at least here in the States
 
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