Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

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I'm liking that before/after on the head surface.

Are you sure about the reach of that plug, though? Seems a bit long.
 
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Sonreir said:
I'm liking that before/after on the head surface.

Are you sure about the reach of that plug, though? Seems a bit long.
With such a low dome piston we thought we would bump the compression and the valves ;)


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Looks like you guys shaved pretty close to .060"?

Hope your degree wheel is handy and you've slotted the cam gear. ;)
 
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yes that is a plug from our cb200 head. We learned from Teazer that the 175 plugs have a half inch reach.


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Looks like you guys shaved pretty close to .060"?

Hope your degree wheel is handy and you've slotted the cam gear. ;)
.090" :) take it to the limit one more time


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Does the piston have a flat squish band/quench area? If yes, then that will work. My personal preference is a 14-15 degree squish band angle on the head an one degree less on the piston. That will eat into the valve seats and will eat some of the top piston ring land, so it's all a compromise - I may have read that somewhere. :)

And you may have to pocket the valves slightly and/or deepen the pockets in the piston crown - so it goes on.

BTW there is more metal that could come out of that port roof but try not to shorten the guide any more than it is. The roof is where the action is. Less going on with the sort turn radius (floor).
 
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Does the piston have a flat squish band/quench area? If yes, then that will work. My personal preference is a 14-15 degree squish band angle on the head an one degree less on the piston. That will eat into the valve seats and will eat some of the top piston ring land, so it's all a compromise - I may have read that somewhere. :)

And you may have to pocket the valves slightly and/or deepen the pockets in the piston crown - so it goes on.

BTW there is more metal that could come out of that port roof but try not to shorten the guide any more than it is. The roof is where the action is. Less going on with the sort turn radius (floor).
There was a big bump on the short turn radius coming out of the valve seat.
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Akunar we are using is right pretty flat.


Can we use titanium for tappets without it galling up? I had this idea while I was turning down titanium socket bolts for a drag bike.



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Not a lot of meat in that top land to machine it much more. How thick are the rings?

When you say Ti tappets do you mean the valve adjusting screws? Worth a go, but I suspect that they will mushroom and gall as the tip rubs back and forth on the valve tip. One trick I have used in the past is to drill them from the screw end down through the soft core and have them broached to take an allen key. Another one is to use Ti or Al nuts. The problem I found with Al nuts is that they tend to loosen and had to be checked after each race. Rocker arms can be lightened quite a bit too.

If the Ti screws work, I'll have to get a set. :) What's available for pit bikes from Kitaco or others?

If you go with Ti valves, give them extra clearance and hardened steel caps and leave out any valve seals. The sideways motion tends to cause them to gall.
 
teazer said:
Not a lot of meat in that top land to machine it much more. How thick are the rings?

When you say Ti tappets do you mean the valve adjusting screws? Worth a go, but I suspect that they will mushroom and gall as the tip rubs back and forth on the valve tip. One trick I have used in the past is to drill them from the screw end down through the soft core and have them broached to take an allen key. Another one is to use Ti or Al nuts. The problem I found with Al nuts is that they tend to loosen and had to be checked after each race. Rocker arms can be lightened quite a bit too.

If the Ti screws work, I'll have to get a set. :) What's available for pit bikes from Kitaco or others?

If you go with Ti valves, give them extra clearance and hardened steel caps and leave out any valve seals. The sideways motion tends to cause them to gall.
Rings are .87mm
Yes valve adjusting screws

I am amazed at the stories I have heard about OCD valve screws. :)


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Nice thin rings. That also means that the top ring is about as high as you dare take it, so no machining of that top surface. That's a shame but makes life simpler.

With valve adjusting screws nothing worse that a screw loose....
 
I hate to admit it, but I've had a screw come loose. Fortunately, it was on downshift. The lock nut dropped in-between the cam chain and crank sprocket and locked it up. Fortunately, no damage. Not really sure how there wasn't a mess.
 
Is there any reason why we can't use the cb160 ear in lieu of the tach 175 ear
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