CB450 K6 issues with one cylinder

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To begin, I am by no means a "skilled mechanic," but I'm willing to try just about anything given accurate advice and after doing enough reading.

The issue is with the left cylinder of my CB450. The bike will start without much issue (most of the time) and idle. Most of the time it will idle fine on both sides. Once the throttle is applied, the left side can be heard going in and out. Given lots of throttle, both sides sound like they are running fine. The first thing I thought to try was the carbs. I figured I needed to clean/adjust/replace some carb parts. Opening the carbs showed that they were very clean, and appear to have been gone through recently. I made sure the pilot screw was adjusted to spec and that both the slow and main jets were clean. I ensured that the float height was set to 20mm, float valve was functioning properly, everything moved freely, etc. After replacing the suspect carb, I have the same issue. I am pretty confident it is not the carb, but I can be persuaded otherwise.

This is what I am dealing with now. I noticed beforehand that I had an oil leak, but now I believe I have found where it is coming from, and I think it might be the root of my problems. Oil appears to be leaking from the joint between the top and bottom of the engine, shown below. (The picture is not of my motorcycle)

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My thinking is that I have a compression issue, which I will be confirming/denying this weekend. Does an oil leak from this spot sound like it might be the culprit of the problems I described? If so, how deep of **** am I in? Can I replace the gaskets/whatever is in there that forms this seal in an attempt to regain proper compression, without the help of a "skilled mechanic"?

Final thought: In removing/replacing/tuning my carbs, I have adjusted the throttles on both carburetors. I believe that they have since been synced relatively closely, but this may still be an issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I hope this can be a learning experience!
 
Is it a lot of oil (dripping) or just the presence of oil (seeping) in this area. Any bike ive had that sat for a while had a little oil in that area (basically look wet) but not necessarily compression issues. If oil is dripping from that area that is different. Also how are the carb diaphrams? No pinholes?
 
I believe I would consider this oil dripping. I can wipe it away and find it again after starting the engine for a few minutes. To be honest I haven't checked the diaphragms for pinholes, but I don't suspect them. These carbs appear immaculate. I will do that though, definitely something I hadn't thought of before.
 
That is your head gasket. You need to go to your local advance or vato zone and borrow a compression tester. Test both cylinders (one at a time, ha) with the throttle wide open to gain the highest reading on each.

Post your results.

P.s. if you do not know the procedure for a compression test, learn it.
 
I will absolutely be doing the compression test and I will post back. Assuming I come back with news of low compression, and I need to change the head gasket, how difficult of a task am I up for do you figure? I've got a couple buddies with more experience than me (a car guy and a Harley guy) who I'm sure are up to help.
 
Get a factory Honda service manual. Read the engine rebuild section. Gauge yor own ability. Do not rely on others. Tell the harley guy to keep his damn dirty hands off. ;D

Now is as good a time as any to at least explore your area for a local independent motorcycle mechanic with a good reputation, or at least a clean shop. Remember, if he can't even clean a shop, how meticulous do you really think he is? It goes hand in hand.

Not even sure if you can remove the head in the frame, someone here knows.
 
I've got a Honda manual (and a Clymer manual around here somewhere...) I found the only local shop and had them do my piston rings a couple years ago. They have since closed down. I can move out of the local area if need be, but that's why I was trying to find out how much work I had cut out for me. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction though! I'll report back once I get a compression test done too.
 
If you were happy with the work he did maybe the guy would still do a head gasket for you, if needed. But maybe he is unreachable.

Yeah, unfortunately with the "I ride a motorcycle so i'm also a bike mechanic" mentality that is sweeping the nation, half built bikes and engines sitting in baskets all over the place, there aren't too many small bike shops that are able to stay afloat. You really have to find a niche these days.
 
Yeah, I think he's gone. Don't have any contact information. I called the only other relatively local shop the other day looking for a float to replace a sunk one, he said he didn't have one. I asked about bringing the bike in for maintenance in the future, he said he was retiring in 2 days. I told him congratulations and lost the only other local shop I knew of. I might be looking for one a little further away soon.
 
qreeuss said:
Yeah, I think he's gone. Don't have any contact information. I called the only other relatively local shop the other day looking for a float to replace a sunk one, he said he didn't have one. I asked about bringing the bike in for maintenance in the future, he said he was retiring in 2 days. I told him congratulations and lost the only other local shop I knew of. I might be looking for one a little further away soon.
Made me a bit sad to read that.

Support your local independent motorcycle shops.
 
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