dragbike / LSR suspension help.

teazer said:
On the drag strip, the perfect set up is zero suspension either by making a rigid frame or by using struts. During a hard launch, suspension allows the bike to squat and that wastes time and energy and time is not available to be wasted. A 1/4 mile strip is generally pretty smooth. Guys that travel at 200 MPH may have a different perspective, but it's not like the street or the salt.

Wheelie bars can be run with rear suspension if it is designed to do so, but again, it's an oddity. The fast set up is slicks for the traction, solid rear end to minimize wasted energy, soft tires to act as a sort of drive train shock absorber as the hammer is dropped. Use all of the above without bars and the bike will flip.

For LSR, with which I have zero experience, I would expect that a low bike with some suspension would provide the best balance of reduced frontal area and enough suspension to absorb the bumps. Hoof has sidecar that's so low, that much suspension movement would be a major problem.
Have you been to a drag race lately? and I am not talking NHRA....bar bikes are becoming a thing of the past....there are guys out there running 6.90's @ over 200mph in the 1/4 on drag radials with no bars and a shock...long swingarms and a good slider or delayed locker clutch are needed...not saying you don't know what you are talking about but nobody runs struts on these bikes...check out the MiRock racing series...Pro Street are the fast non bar guys...HTP Racing....Stotz Racing...check these guys out and tell me that bikes with no bars or a slick will flip......I will try to post a video or 2 if I can get it on here...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_7F3SI_l8&feature=share&list=PL19215BDCA56BC25E


This one is a little long...like 9 min....
 
1fasgsxr said:
Have you been to a drag race lately?

Not since last month at Martin MI :-) And I have raced against guys on almost stock modern street bikes without bars that do around 150 in the quarter.

You are correct and we watched a guy on a stretched Busa top 200 at Martin, but we're not talking 250 HP 10 foot long megabikes here. Or are we? The question, I thought, was from someone asking about the basics as they apply to old bikes with short wheelbases and high C of G.

The questions were somewhat general in nature and the answer was focused on the basics as they apply to a mildly modified older bike. Reference to bars was to try to clarify earlier comments about bars and suspension combos.

Good to update the conversation though to see how far motorcycle technology has come.
 
As I understand it the OP was looking for advice to set up an LSR 305. This thread veered into wheelie bars and drag race set ups. None of that info will apply to his particular application. You will not be hard launching like a drag race but with the higher gearing normally associated with LSR runs and him having such a small motor he will more than likely be launching very softly, feathering the clutch, just to keep from stalling while he is being pushed of the line.
 
o1marc said:
As I understand it the OP was looking for advice to set up an LSR 305. This thread veered into wheelie bars and drag race set ups. None of that info will apply to his particular application. You will not be hard launching like a drag race but with the higher gearing normally associated with LSR runs and him having such a small motor he will more than likely be launching very softly, feathering the clutch, just to keep from stalling while he is being pushed of the line.

He wants to use it for both.
Drag and LSR
 
Sorry I answered questions asked about drag racing set ups when he asked about drag racing sets up and LSR set ups...my bad....if the op had problems with my responses I am sure he would have said so...just trying to put some info out there...
 
Hey guys, it's all good. I want info on both lsr & drag.

It's great having the discussion, and hearing the options even if they don't apply to me :D
 
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