1972 CB175 cafe build.. its name Carnage Asada!

The exhaust is off a 2012 yz450f, it has the reverse head on it, I need it chop it up and get a tighter loop in it. as soon as I finish up getting the wheels and brakes cinched up then I'm starting on the motor. Excited to attempt the reverse head. Yes I do have the factory headers still, no mufflers though.
 
are they the scrambler style headers? or the ones that run under the motor? I'm interested in grabbing some scrambler style ones....Dude if you reverse port this thing it will be insane and bike of the month and all of that Badassery
 
How are you organizing the valve timing for the reversed head? Are the lobes being welded up and reground or is there another plan?
 
They are the under the motor style. I will pull it off, I've been drawing and racking my brain for a while. Right now, I think I have it figured out, but I can also see the timing being the hardest part. This is my first motor job and first time working with a points ignition. Haha
 
Ask Lots of questions pick every ones brain on this one especially Teaser...You Will Shatter Records...
 
Ok, im going to try and describe how i think this is possible, the motor has a 180 degree firing. so both pistons travel up and down at the same time, one side gets the fire the other rids of the exhaust at the same time. The head is the same on the outside as far as the side that have the tach gear on one side and the other has the points. The tach or the points assy can be mounted on either side of the head, same bolt holes etc. the cam is center driven. so the timing chain will be straight up either direction. the head, cylinder, and valve cover have 8 long ass bolts that travel all the way through them all, all are spaced the same front back and side to side. So take the head rotate it 180 degrees so the exhaust comes out of the back, carbs in front (ram air anyone?) here is the tricky part or possibly the easy part. The cam has 2 lobes, both exactly in the same spot, so i could rotate the cam 180 and bam. the cam would have to be advanced 180 being it will be rotating back wards. as far as the specifics on the cam, im not 100% sure if the lobes are exactly the same shape travelling forward or backward, ill check tomorrow. Here is the easy part as long as it moves correctly, and triggers the coil to fire, if is firing on the wrong cylinder swap the spark plug wires making cyl #1 now #2 and vice versa. hopefully this makes sense.
 
the cam may not need to be 180 degrees out, might be able to switch the wires instead. its all gunna come down to just doing it, but theoretically it seems very possible.
 
it's been done before on other bikes.... like this one..... never seen a little 175 reverse ported (and it seems so easy) so your getting me all excited
 

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You and me both! I just want other bike enthusiasts to scratch their head when they see something different, and then see if they appreciate something unique.
 
True, i see new bikes everyday, at first it was awesome, but now i only get excited to see something old or something out of the ordinary. Dont get me wrong i love all bikes, but its all cookie cutter till someone puts their touch on it.
 
yamahaggard said:
True, i see new bikes everyday, at first it was awesome, but now i only get excited to see something old or something out of the ordinary. Dont get me wrong i love all bikes, but its all cookie cutter till someone puts their touch on it.


+1 to that and good luck with this great idea shouldn't take too long to get it together may need to mod the intake boots to clear the frame rail(s) but thats just little stuff ;)
 
Someone here did it with a 550 not too long ago. Get in touch with him at DWMS racing to ask about stuffs

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-edit- here's the thread for that particular bike http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=19961.0
 
180 degree crank (most Japanese twins) has one up and one down. The two crank pins are 180 degrees or half a revolution out. 360 degree crank ((Brit bikes and Honda CB/CD/CA 125/160/175/200) have both pins together and the cylinders fire one complete revolution (360 degrees) out.

Cams are ground with an asymmetric shape on an OHC motor to account for the way that the rocker arm wipes over the cam. On a pushrod twin, the cams are typically on their own shafts and have a symmetrical tappet (cam follower). DOHC motors also have symmetrical cams where they are direct acting on a bucket. SOHC cams with rockers are a bit more tricky to get your head around.

Here are a couple of CB77 race cams with a street cam so you can see the shapes
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You will still rotate the engine in the same direction, but the timing will not be correct. Think in terms of leaving the inlet cam in place to operate what is now the exhaust - same cam operating the rocker that is on the rear side of the motor so that the valve geometry still works. Now work out where the other cam has to be to open the intake at the right time.

Megacycle can regrind your cams and can move them as required but it's not cheap.
 
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