1979 CB750K Cafe - Sold

Re: 1979 CB750K Cafe Build - First Time Builder

I didn't know there was a conversion kit. I did it the hard way and took it to my machine shop. VERY expensive option because of the hours required to fit those bearings. In hindsight, I would've taken a cb900 swingarm and retrofitted it to the cb750 frame. Coulda, shouda, woulda, eh?

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=9860.60
 
Re: 1979 CB750K Cafe Build - First Time Builder

biker_reject: I think your build is amazing, I don't see a whole lot of coulda shoulda's on your bike. I keep thinking about changes, but I've decided to just do as much as I can with the stock 750 parts rather than try swapping things out and biting off more than I can chew.
 
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Following your build after you posted in my introduction, hope you dont mind me leeching from your experience!
 
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I'm about as experienced as you, though mine came with a lot less parts! Thanks for signing on!
 
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I'm jealous. The guy who helped me on my hoop and fix up my grinding wheel error has finished a new bike. This thing was just the unpainted frame with the modifications on the back mocked up sitting on the floor in his garage when he helped me fix the grinding wheel gash. Now, he's got it done and selling it in Phoenix Craig's List. I need to come up with an excuse to get over there so I can see it in person. Sweet ride.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/3526524961.html
 
Re: 1979 CB750K Cafe Build - First Time Builder

Looks like I got to this too late. The tab on top of the swing arm near the pivot spindle (B in the photo) is to stop your chain rubbing on the swing arm. Your gonna need to keep an eye on your chain to make sure you never have any slack, or all that nice paint you put on there will have chain tracks on it.
 
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OH GOD! Mine was definately broken off, that is why I removed the remainder!
So sorry for mis leading you Silky :-[
 
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hey I cut mine off and had to weld it back on. Thats how I know. ;D
 
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Maybe I'll drill and tap a couple small holes and put a small aluminum block there, make a high tech wear plate of sorts ;)
 
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Someone makes a cool chain tensioner that uses a skateboard wheel (Stacy Peralta wheel, I think) that's pretty cool looking.
 
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SilkySmooth750 said:
Was hoping for some advice on the bushings. I saw a kit that can convert the bushings to needle bearings. Though, for some reason, I feel like I'm losing my mind and can only find kits for 78 and older. I believe Honda went to needle bearings in 1980. Can I just order the needle bearings and inner pivot rod for a 1980? I don't know. I was also thinking just going with brass bushings. What's the difference?

Also, I was thinking since my grinding left some rough spots, that this bike is going to be mostly matte black to hide flaws and to kind of give it a grimy look. Since I'll be powder coating my swing arm soon, I thought I would use that as my test part. Then, throw some orange in certain spots, like the spokes, points cover, etc. I know it sounds like Halloween, but I was thinking something like safety orange, like a real bright orange to avoid looking like Halloween or a chair in a cheap pizza chain restaurant.

I dont know how you went forward with this but for your info. You cant just use the bearings and pivot bolt from the 80 model. The 79 in 14mm and 80 is 16mm so you would have to drill out and ream the frame. I dont for sure but I would also imagine that the pivot tube on the swing arm is also wider so the bearings would not fit.

You should also be able to get the bearing cheaper from a bearing supplier than from Bikebandit to replace the bushings, if you go route. You may need a new pivot bolt as well if theres any wear on the bearing surface.

The grinding marks wont be hidden by paint and probably not by powder coating. You need to use a less abrasive flap wheel on you grinder or a drill to get a smoother finish.

Keep on with build it a steep learning curve on your first build, we all learn from our mistakes and we've all made plenty of em.
 
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Wow! Lots of action on my humble little post this weekend!

Notlob: It may not be too late as I haven't done any powder coating yet. I'm still deciding on my powder coating vendor. I know that paint or powder coat won't hide all the flaws, but I'm thinking matte colors will "highlight" those flaws a little less. I am definitely learning from my mistakes on this one. Thanks for the support!

HD: No worries at all. I probably would have chopped it off even if you had identified that piece as Notlob did. I really didn't like the look of it. Since now we're in the same boat, I'll wait for to see what you come with and just steal your idea. :) I know you'll come up with something visually pleasing. Or, I could just keep an eye on my chain. I feel like I won’t be seeing much of my chain slapping my swing arm, with or without a plate.

Biker Reject: Chain tensioners make me nervous, especially one’s with skateboard wheels, but that’s just me. I’m hoping if I do a decent job of reinstalling everything close to stock, I won’t have too many chain interference issues.
 
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Silky! Havnt posted here yet, subscribed to see a fellow DOHCer take on this beast =)
 
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HD...I've been thinking about updating, but was going to wait. However, I don't mind posting what I've been doing so far before I'm done!

So, after watching Herm over @ DCC carve his own Cafe Seat out of foam and then glass it, I decided to try my hand at it. I started with the blocks of floral foam similar to what he used and started carving. I found the foam to be way too loose and just made a huge mess all over my garage. It didn't work out very well, so I gave up on that method.

I remembered watching some TV show where some car guys took a rolling chassis and created a metal skeleton around it and then poured this two part foam stuff that they they carved. Of course, we all know expanding foam's tendency to burst into flames when in contact with heat, I remember thinking what a stupid idea it was. However, I decided it would be perfect for what I want to do which is create a mold for someone to glass for me.

I decided to ask HD for his advice about the foam and he pointed me to my nearest Lowe's to get a couple cans of "Great Stuff" expanding foam.

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I decided to use painter's tape and cardboard to create a mold on the tail end of my frame. I figured this would be the smartest way to go about getting the general shape I need with less effort than trying to carve the flimsy florist's foam. So...here we go!

Starting off:

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Here's the bottom all finished:

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I have some pics of the sides I did and the foam in the mold, but I have to upload them to Photobucket, so you'll all just have to wait! LOL. I do have more to update on this, pit falls, mistakes (as usual), and where I am. I will post again this week.
 
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I think this is going to be interesting
 
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Oh sure... throw me under the bus!
:p
That's OK pal, hope it works for you... just to explain, we were talking about your two part expanding foam idea and I thought Great-stuff may be easier and cheaper to come by. Personally, I used the ultra cheap white bead styro board, it's the messiest and hardest to carve but almost ANYTHING you buy comes packed in it for FREE!
:)
 
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damn how do i get one of those engine stands (750 Lb. Engine Stand Central Machinery - item#32915) delivered to New Zealand? Harbour dont seem to do international deliveries or have email contact? sorry to highjack your thread but damn thats a great deal!! ps im following this as im just starting my 79 build!!
 
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HD, oh man! I didn't mean to throw you under the bus. To expand on HD's clarification, I sent him a PM asking him if my idea seemed completely insane before I tried it out with the rest of the DTT crew. I mentioned the two part expanding foam I had seen on the TV show and he mentioned the Great Stuff foam as an alternative. I did some research and as usual, HD was correct. It was way cheaper and so much easier to work with. No mixing, super dangerous fumes, etc. His response to my question was much like notlob "sounds interesting".

Terry, I actually live right down the street from a store and they were having one of their famous tent sales. I also had one of the 20% off coupons you can find in most automotive/motorcycle magazines. Going to the store is always better, but if there are no locations in New Zealand, I think you'll still get a great deal if you call 1-805-388-3000 for international orders. I didn't try calling, but I would venture to guess that would be a good starting point for you. They do say that they'll ship anywhere! BTW, got a link to your build? There's a lot of us DOHC'ers on here now who'd love to see what you're working on.

Back to business. After completing the bottom, I moved onto building up some side panels. Apologies for the terrible pics as usual, crap phone and poorly lit garage.

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Here's the full mold with all sides. I used a poster board to follow the curve on my hoop.

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Then, I started spraying in the Good Stuff. Came out a lot like shaving cream.

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After 3 cans of the stuff (at only $3.50 USD a bottle, cheap).

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The next morning, I was a bit worried as it was kind of "squishy" and not as hard as I hoped. After a couple more days of curing, I decided to remove it from the frame. Well, as some of you may have thought, that blue tape basically fused at a genetic level with the foam. Also, the foam expands and expands and expands for as long as it feels like. This was a double edged sword in that it fit the mold perfect, but it really wedged it into the frame rails. After some wresting on my work bench, then on the ground, she popped out. Most of the tape didn't come off, so I had to slowly peel of little pieces. I tried sanding some off and that did work, just takes some elbow grease. So, the seat is out of the mold, still curing as there are still spots on the bottom where the foam is "squishing" out in little bubbles. Here it is on my work bench with tape stuck all over it. Next step is carving. Haven't started that yet.

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The cool thing about this foam is it still has some give and is forgiving. I can wedge it right back in between my frame rails perfect. The other cool thing is I can always add foam back, so if I make a big error I can just spritz some on to build it back up. I will post some more once I start carving, sanding, etc. as I do have some questions.
 
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