540cc Honda 360 Engine
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cyclhed
Been Around the Block
Roc City Cafe said:
Here's the details on fork geometry, the plan was to have 27* built into
the frame but after jigging and welding, ended up at 26 degrees, of
course that also depends on front & rear ride height, Trail is 3.8"
with 2.1" straight offset in the triple clamps. If it turns out I need
something different, I can machine some billet triples with the
corrections. The wheel base is a short 52", which I like for less lean
angle.
Bert Jan said:With all the love and money and effort you guys put into this, i do not understand for the love of god why you put the rearsets on the swinger. It'll ride shit, you will be sick in 10 minutes because your feet location does not correspond with the seat. Your mind does not get it and will think your on a boat. Its like sea sickness.
it looks nice though
As to the pegs mounted on swing arm, 2" of rear axle travel amounts
to .5" of peg movement. The controls do move in relationship to the
pegs however, so will have to see how that works out. The only real
detriment is if you ride with a lot of your body weight on the pegs, it
becomes added to to the rear unsprung weight. Not a problem here.
As forgetting sick after ten minutes of riding, I'm not sure I'm that
sensitive, I have been seasick, but my ass and feet were moving a hell
of a lot more than half inch.
Of course a person wants to build the best bike he can within
reason, but this is after all a home made "Cafe Racer", which is a
derogatory term for a wannabe racer, not a factory G/P bike. A bar
hopper if you like.
GmanGS450
Active Member
You did a great job explaining your self there, but I don not feel you should even F'en have too. This is your build thread and you did not ask anyone their opinion or how to do this. You have shown you have the knowledge and will to do this project. People should just lay off.
- 4pm rant at work.
- 4pm rant at work.
mydlyfkryzis
当有疑问时踢你的敌人在生殖器上，你可以道歉后
Posting on a public forum is asking for opinions.
He is free to respond or not.
The comments weren't pot shots, but genuine concern.
That's why it's as forum, for discussion.
No matter what you build, if you put it on display, some will like it, some wont, others have questions about reasons or configurations.
Commenting isn't always positive.
The op is a big boy and can handle himself fine.
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He is free to respond or not.
The comments weren't pot shots, but genuine concern.
That's why it's as forum, for discussion.
No matter what you build, if you put it on display, some will like it, some wont, others have questions about reasons or configurations.
Commenting isn't always positive.
The op is a big boy and can handle himself fine.
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ABCanuck
Coast to Coast
^+1
Felt very similar but better put by mydlyf than I would have. I am very intrigued by this build and have been following it along faithfully but do not have the trained eye to notice such concerns.
I find these comments to be the very reason why dtt exists. The pool of knowledge is staggering and I am constantly learning because of all of you chiming in. Loving this project
Felt very similar but better put by mydlyf than I would have. I am very intrigued by this build and have been following it along faithfully but do not have the trained eye to notice such concerns.
I find these comments to be the very reason why dtt exists. The pool of knowledge is staggering and I am constantly learning because of all of you chiming in. Loving this project
rockcitycafe
I make things.
cyclhed said:
3.8 seems quite safe, pic looked deceiving
cyclhed
Been Around the Block
All comments, concerns, compliments and questions are always totally welcome. Also defenders! That's what makes this forum so cool! If we were concerned about getting our feelings hurt we wouldn't post anything! It's great entertainment to read what folks have to say about this stuff and to answer. Isn't one of the reasons we build and modify these machines is so that other people will look at them? And we are hoping say, "that's cool as hell!"? Of course it is...
I'm glad you guys asked about the frame geometry. It was not mentioned before by us, but should have been. You do have to wait until it's all completed until you get the final numbers for rake and trail due to all of the variables, but you need to be close to start. We had to go find the notes so we could pass it along. We have built and modified a few motorcycle frames in the past. My father, who is the builder here, has been building motorcycles and hot rods for a long time; 50+ years. He has always done things uniquely, in his own way and outside of the box. He's really not constrained by any type of popular style. The things he builds are well thought out and the engineering is always solid. I went back to the earlier post and found the "philosophy" behind the engine project as a reminder, and I know it goes for the frame also:
"This is a (not so) simple "can this be done?" project, not a clean sheet
racing engine. I will use what I have, what is easy to get, and what
I can modify to make work. Nothing is written in stone and changes as
quickly as I think of better ways to do things, that for me is the
FUN part, and that's all this is about; me having fun. It is not my
intent to make the highest HP possible, just a decent running engine.
There are many way's to do things and I'm not interested in arguing
which is best. I'm happy to share the way I'm doing it. First hand
experience and info is always appreciated."
News from the engine department:
I pulled the engine down to check how things looked after the short
> fire up, as I didn't finish the chamber depth. Had slight head kissing
> on one piston, so machined chambers .020 deeper and at a better angle
> to match piston top. lightened pistons 5 grams and matched weights,
> they were 3 grams different, refined position and deepened valve
> notches slightly. Gun drilled cam lobe holes looked to be oiling as
> they should as well as rockers. should be good to go. Now to see how
> much paint I can knock off putting it back together, Also how many
> brackets I forgot.
I'm glad you guys asked about the frame geometry. It was not mentioned before by us, but should have been. You do have to wait until it's all completed until you get the final numbers for rake and trail due to all of the variables, but you need to be close to start. We had to go find the notes so we could pass it along. We have built and modified a few motorcycle frames in the past. My father, who is the builder here, has been building motorcycles and hot rods for a long time; 50+ years. He has always done things uniquely, in his own way and outside of the box. He's really not constrained by any type of popular style. The things he builds are well thought out and the engineering is always solid. I went back to the earlier post and found the "philosophy" behind the engine project as a reminder, and I know it goes for the frame also:
"This is a (not so) simple "can this be done?" project, not a clean sheet
racing engine. I will use what I have, what is easy to get, and what
I can modify to make work. Nothing is written in stone and changes as
quickly as I think of better ways to do things, that for me is the
FUN part, and that's all this is about; me having fun. It is not my
intent to make the highest HP possible, just a decent running engine.
There are many way's to do things and I'm not interested in arguing
which is best. I'm happy to share the way I'm doing it. First hand
experience and info is always appreciated."
News from the engine department:
I pulled the engine down to check how things looked after the short
> fire up, as I didn't finish the chamber depth. Had slight head kissing
> on one piston, so machined chambers .020 deeper and at a better angle
> to match piston top. lightened pistons 5 grams and matched weights,
> they were 3 grams different, refined position and deepened valve
> notches slightly. Gun drilled cam lobe holes looked to be oiling as
> they should as well as rockers. should be good to go. Now to see how
> much paint I can knock off putting it back together, Also how many
> brackets I forgot.
Keiff Hardcore
Loves anything that burns oil
any updates on this bad ass ride? it seams to be coming together awesome.
foundation982
Been Around the Block
make your bike the way you want to make it, but lets cut to the chase I want to see a video of this badass thing run! I mean I'd pay to watch it, better than a porn subscription.
