'72 Honda CB350

Rooney

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Back in late February I bought my first bike, a CB 350, and it ran great for a few weekend. (I'm up at school right now, almost done, so I'm only home on the weekends to ride) And of course most of the weekends it was raining so I couldn't ride. Anyway near the end of spring break it was beautiful so I went out for a nice ride.

As I was heading back home someone decided to turn at the last second and gave me almost no time to react. I can't remember the exact order but there was downshifting, throttling up and or down and braking. A real mess but I made it out fine, my bike however didn't. I got maybe 10 feet past the intersection and the thing sounded horrible then stalled out. After what seemed like an hour, probably about 5-10mins, I got the bike running again and headed home (a mile or so from where I was) but stalled once more on the way there.

Once I got home I realized that the bike was running really sluggish, the throttle wasn't giving it enough power and it didn't sound right at all. Popping and thumpy. At that point there wasn't much time to look into it and in the weekends after I've been pretty busy. This past weekend my dad and I were fuddling around with it and got the carbs set and oil changed. We were going to clean the filter but the last two owners (I'm the third) seem to have stripped every screw and bolt so instead of cleaning the filter we just changed the oil. (I'm looking into getting new screws for the filter access and then we're gonna get the stripped ones out, there's absolutely no hold left on them, it's ridiculous) Changing the oil and getting the carbs set seems to have helped a lot but there are still some problems:
1) When the throttle is fully open the bike isn't getting past maybe 4,000rpm. That may even be a high estimate. It just isn't doing what it's supposed be doing. We think the throttle cables may be loose, is that right? If not what else might it be?
2) The bike has a hard time starting unless the Choke is in the full open position. (The electric start doesn't work so it's all kick, another problem in itself) Would that be related to the throttle problem or might there be a problem with the fuel line?

Those are the two main conclusions we came up with. At the time my dad had to go to a family thing and I had my own stuff to do so we didn't get past the carbs and oil change, but like I said, they really seem to have helped. I have the original owners manual and a book on CB250 and 350's (forget what it's called, Cleimer or something, I know a lot of people have it) but I couldn't find any throttle fixes in there. I'd appreciate any help you guys could give me, riding this thing is amazing. I've wanted a motorcycle for a while now and this is exactly what I was hoping for. The not running, eeeeh not so much hoping for that but I'm definitely willing to learn how to fix this thing myself.
Thanks a lot and I look forward to hanging around here a bit.
 
First of all, welcome to the site!

Sounds like it might be a fuel delivery issue. Pull the carbs off and give them a VERY thorough cleaning. Might even be an incredible air/exhaust leak somewhere as well. If the throttle was loose, it won't be for long - it'll disconnect soon.

Forget about the Clymer's manual - it's more of a guideline to maintainence. Look around on DTT's homepage for a section called "Repair Manuals" or something. Get the original service manual in PDF format.

Do you have an impact driver? If not, get one. It will become your favorite tool for all those stripped out screws and they are about $20 at Advanced.
 
You say the filter screws are stuck, you mean the oil filter? Can you get into the airbox and be sure the element isn't totally solid and there aren't mouse nests or something in the intakes?

Dan
 
wow at this rate of response i'll have 50 things to check out by the time I get home! thanks guys

dcwp - The screws just have their heads completely striped by the previous owners. At this point it looks like a hex wretch would have a better chance of getting them loose haha, it's pretty ridiculous.

Big R - Thanks. I've heard similar things about Clymer's but it's all I have in the way of hard materials right now. Luckily however I'm at a tech school so our library is filled with tons of auto mechanic books and there are some specifically for old jap bikes so I'll check those out but there are only 7 days left of school. My dad said we had a tool to get stripped screws out so I guess he was talking about the impact driver. We're thinking it's a fuel problem at this point, especially since when the choke is full open the bike starts and when it's on it's harder to start so we were gonna check the fuel line too.
 
if the screws are totally stripped, impact driver wont do jack. you need a screw remover... essentially its threaded backwards and when you twist it it breaks the screw loose.

sounds like fuel delivery... as others said, go through the carbs. unless if you redlined the girl for a couple of minutes, i dont see any real internal damage being done by the mishap.

look around... single things out one at a time.
 
could be a whole rash of shit... all of the above, plus things like, since it came from a hard stop...could have jiggled a jet loose, could have thrown the timing off, points, maybe jiggled a spark plug boot loose. the list goes on... when it does run, is it backfiring? if so from the carbs or the exhaust?
stripped screw? easy, get a dremel and cut a slot in the screw head. impact driver and a flat head tip and you should be good. if that fails e-z-out will do the trick!
 
+1 to the Dremel! Lifesaver sometimes.

Back to the fuel issue, check all the small things first. Clogged fuel filter maybe? No matter what it is, you'd be surprised how the tiniest thing can mess with you.
 
Well like I said, I won't be able to do anything until the weekend except wait and think what it could be. Is it really only tuesday?
 
Well keep us up to date! I can't speak for everybody, but you solving your problem helps other people solve the similar problem in the future!
 
If you have to keep your choke on just to have it run, your jets are probably plugged. If they are, try to figure out how those things got in there; Fuel filters, air filters, crap in tank, etc.
And if I have a stripped head on a screw I just take my cut off wheel and make a notch all the way across the head so I can get a straight screwdriver on it. Just don't go all the way through the head with the cut off wheel, only about half way through. And get that punch someone was talking about. Works like a charm.
 
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