77 Suzuki GS550 - first build

SmugMonkey

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Hi guys! Been lurking a long time here and finally decided to join the club. I got a 1977 Suzuki GS550 today, $300 from Craigslist. Previous owner was a college student that had it about a month, drained all the fluids, took the carbs off to clean, and that's about it. Doesn't know if it runs because he never tried to start it. He said there had only been one owner before him, a motorcycle mechanic.

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The good: To my untrained eye it looks to be in decent shape mechanically. Carbs are clean, fuel line is clear, tank looks good inside, engine has good compression, so as long as I can get it to spark it should run, right?

The bad: the grips and clutch lever are missing, as are the side panels and the "DOHC" cover that goes on the right-hand side of the crankcase. Could use new tires since the tread is worn and the sidewalls have a few small cracks - nothing worrying, but something that on a car would indicate to me that I should start looking for new ones. The finish on the yellow is rough and dull and I haven't found any evidence that it was a stock color. It's chipped away in places to show black underneath and I'm assuming that was the original color. There is some minor surface rust on the underside of the pipes around the 4-to-1 junction that needs to be cleaned up before it turns inward. There are a lot of small things that need work too - brake light is slightly cracked, one of the fork dust seals is starting to split, the driver's pegs don't match, one of the screws in the left front turn signal was replaced with one with the same pitch but a slightly larger head that doesn't drive in flush, there's a visible screw at the back of the muffler, and the list goes on.

To-do list:
1. Find a service manual.
2. Get it running. I've tentatively set a $400 budget for this, half for winter storage and half for parts. If I can't get it running within somewhere close to this budget then I'll sell it or part it out. I've seen the frame alone go for $200-250, so I may not come out ahead but I probably won't lose my shirt either.
3. Replace hand controls and missing covers and panels.
4. Try not to kill myself. 550 inline-4 is a bit of a jump from the 125/250 thumpers I'm used to.

The fun stuff: I'm thinking replace as many lights as possible with smaller LED lights, add superbike bars, fork boots. Relocate most of the stuff under the seat for that open triangle look, which I know some of you think is played out but I like the look and I don't have the panels anyway. Build two seats, a one-up cafe seat (maybe with the original cowl?) and a two-up brat seat. No point having a motorcycle in your 20s if you only have room for yourself on it right? Repaint the tank, and the cowl if I do end up using it. I'd like to ditch the fenders but there are a lot of dirt roads out here so I'll probably shave the back one down and paint the front one black. I'll probably get some dual-sport tires for the same reason.

I've worked on heavy equipment and some older cars before, but never a motorcycle apart from basic lube and fluids. Anything specific I should check or watch out for? Got suggestions for parts or paint? Want to tell me exactly how big of a mess I've gotten myself into?

Thanks!
 
Good luck man! I'm building a GS too. Mine was in rough shape in the beginning, but slowly coming together. If you have any questions, ask I might be able to help if I can.
 
Hey man good luck with that thing!

Check my post for info and pics some tips, I'm doing the same thing, it's coming along.

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=62143.0
 
Hey thanks guys!

Cosmetically rough, mechanically in good shape. If I keep repeating that to myself maybe it'll be true right? ::) Nah, it's actually decent mechanically, surprisingly clean and neat on the inside, it just sat in someone's barn since 2006.

Cj, some ugliness in your thread inspired me to do a little more research and instead of the CVs yours has, my bike came with Mikuni RS carbs. They appear to be stock according to the diagrams on BikeBandit.com although I'm not 100% sure, but at any rate they will run with pods if I decide to go that route, in fact according to the manual they're specifically designed to work with K&N RC-0981 pods instead of the one-piece airbox currently on it.

That, and according to my local dealer I can pull parts from any GS550 or GS550E, 1977 to 1979. Someone please stop me if that's not correct but it sure makes things easier when I'm looking at part-outs or junkyard ebay deals. So it's a day for small victories.

The tank is filthy on the outside, but clean and shiny on the inside - except when I shake it or turn it on its side, there's something very small that rattles around in there. Sounds like only one object, and a bit more like plastic-on-metal than metal-on-metal to me. Any ideas what it might be or how to get it out?
 
Dumbass noob question time!

So as I'm thinking about the direction I want to go with this thing, I'm wondering about chopping down the frame. May not be necessary at all since I'm going for a two-up seat and the stock fender, seat, cowl, etc. extend past the rear of the frame, but I may want to chop it anyway.

I'm planning on shortening the rear fender way down, although not losing it completely because of all the dirt roads in my area. The peak of the fender seems to be right at the rear mounts for it, which are the tabs sticking up right in front of the arched support in the picture below (found online, I didn't tear my bike down). If I was to chop the frame right at the red lines, behind that support, I know I'd lose the rear turn signal mounts but would I lose anything in terms of strength or rigidity?

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Also, rear hoop. What does it do? I assume it strengthens the frame if you've cut other supports away, but apart from that it's just for the cafe racer look right?
 
hoops are for looks but they also allow a place to attach the fender and tailight
you will loose zero structural integrity doing what you show
the up and over piece is good place to mount the seat and as you seem to know you need that height for tire/suspension travel clearance
in my opinion the open triangle look is a huge waste of time, money and effort
people do it cause they like how it looks in pitchurs ???
the money and energy is better spent on making the bike handle and ride/hold the road better
the airbox is a good thing for wet weather riding and you can get a single K&N for it
the battery location stock is the best place for it as far as where the weight is located
 
Well looks are a personal thing, and i like the look of open triangle and its not at all a waste of time money or effort. In fact you can do it for free, effort is minimal and it doesn't take much time. If we all liked exactly the same look then why would we even be on this forum...almost all the bikes are customized and different, that's why i love looking at bikes. Criticizing is fine but we are all entitled to our idea of what we like. My bike is probably not liked by alot of people but i didn't build it to impress other people, i built it because i like how it. I've seen bikes on here that I don't like but I still appreciate the time and work that the owners put into them and they probably love them and don't care what i think anyways..lol
 
jaykim - could you elaborate on free/minimal effort was of getting the open triangle? That is something I would like to explore for my own GS build.
 
I mounted electrics under seat, and detabbed frame of all tabs and you could just touch up paint i suppose but i did frame off resto so i powder coated clear after sandblasting. I suppose you could do it in a day if just touching up paint and you are decent with rewiring things.
 
Thanks guys. In my case the open triangle look isn't just about the look, which I do like, but also because the side covers are missing and from what I've seen they're expensive to replace. I need to replace the battery and R/R anyway (with totally different ones, not OEM) so in the process why not move them? Then again, it is a good spot for a flash of color.
 
SmugMonkey said:
Thanks guys. In my case the open triangle look isn't just about the look, which I do like, but also because the side covers are missing and from what I've seen they're expensive to replace. I need to replace the battery and R/R anyway (with totally different ones, not OEM) so in the process why not move them? Then again, it is a good spot for a flash of color.
the thing is every idiot poser and his mother are doing the open look ,there is nothing original about it and the stupid fuckers end up with a bike that runs worse than a 3 legged sloth because then they gotta tune the carbs with silly tiny pods and they got absolutely zero clue how to do that
get some sheet metal and bang out some side covers paint em polish em whatever
 
The thing is I'm not an idiot poser, I've had bikes my whole life and have always customized them, you assume that someone is a poser cause they like this look? I think maybe you are an idiot for assuming this. I've tuned my bike properly and have been tuning carbs for over 20 years so don't make assumptions. Are you saying that the stock look is original and unique? Really, cause there are thousands upon thousands of bikes like this, literally anybody can do that. I think you should probably keep your name calling and assumptions to yourself. You make yourself look like an arrogant ass. Which by your comment I'm pretty sure you must be. I might not appreciate a certain or stock look but I don't call that person
an idiot for liking that. You sir are a troll.


the thing is every idiot poser and his mother are doing the open look ,there is nothing original about it and the stupid fuckers end up with a bike that runs worse than a 3 legged sloth because then they gotta tune the carbs with silly tiny pods and they got absolutely zero clue how to do that
get some sheet metal and bang out some side covers paint em polish em whatever
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calm down :D i didn't call YOU any names, i was generalizing about the majority of bike "builders" these days
 
Gentlemen, please, no fighting in the war room!

I'll freely admit I'm not a carb expert yet, but it says right in the manual for these specific carbs that if you buy one specific model of pod they will work. Should be easy to get them tuned by using the instructions in the tuning section of the same manual right?

Anyway, XB, I think you're starting to sway me over to fabbing up a pair of replacement covers and using the money I would have spent on relocation to make it run and ride better instead. I'm nothing if not cheap.

Jay, where are you located? Some of your pictures look just like where I'm at in southwest Montana. Beautiful country for riding.
 
I'm in Kimberley BC, also if you want I have a perfect (scratched and need paint but all tabs and no cracks) set of side covers you can have for $25 plus shipping. I'll be going to Eureka on friday morning and can send from there for cheaper shipping. Also have stock exhaust in near perfect shape.
 
the open triangle does look great but it requires a lot of work and relocation. The battery relo wont affect the center weight by much
 
xb33bsa said:
the thing is every idiot poser and his mother are doing the open look ,there is nothing original about it and the stupid fuckers end up with a bike that runs worse than a 3 legged sloth because then they gotta tune the carbs with silly tiny pods and they got absolutely zero clue how to do that
get some sheet metal and bang out some side covers paint em polish em whatever

lol, here we go again with xb's all high and mighty opinion.

What I say.....

Do what you want with the means and skills you have.
 
If I stuck to my skills I'd be buying off the lot, and if I stuck to my means I'd be riding a bicycle... meh, learning by doing is more fun.
 
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