Are we losing viewership at DTT?

[teazer]

, so with all due respect sir....,people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

508 million people live in the EU, all have freedom of where they choose to live in any of its member countries, a further 88 million turks to join the EU later this year, we have zero control on their movement but they all have the same goal to move to countries within Europe that offer free housing, free education, benefits system, and a free NHS healthcare. We give 350 million GBP per year to the EU and get sweet FA in return, except giving our law making to a twat in Brussels
So when i say we want to control our own boarders i mean as a country we should welcome all migrants not only from Europe but the entire world, but we should adopt the Australian rules on immigration and only accept migrants, who will benefit this country in a constructive way, not suck it dry like a parasite.
Housing, schools, healthcare, employment all at breaking point, integration, silent terrorist cells, caliphate, free movement of paedophiles, rapists, organised crime syndicates,
Example ...new years eve cologne train station, Germany 1000 sex assaults on women including gang rape and robbery all committed by migrants that have been welcomed by the host country.
All migrants are now banned from public swimming baths for sexual harassments on women and children.
There recorded reasons, because they were dressed inappropriately and were asking for it, WTF, and in our country this is normal practise, but you’re not in your country!
Being a part of a single market is a hindrance on trade EU restricts us from world trade that economically is a disaster for us.
Security, there is none in the EU
If this is not enough reasons to leave the EU, please let me know and i will elaborate.

Great argument but largely off topic. You started a few pages ago yelling about the US president for telling the UK to keep its borders open which he didn't do. Now you explore the concept of the Schengen zone which is interesting, and not without issues, but the UK is not part of that agreement. The UK and Ireland are not currently obligated to an open border policy and I agree with you that they should not have one. And Obama didn't suggest you should.

Problems with migrants integrating and inappropriate behavior. That is a problem and the UK has laws that can be and should be applied fairly. None of that is relevant to Brexit argument .

What I understood the US President to have done was to encourage Brits to stay in the economic union which has advantages to the UK and to Europe. I am sure there are also disadvantages of being involved in agreements to work together. I totally get that there are some really dumb laws from Brussels and the way that the EU government is made up could do with a massage or two.

None of that is Obama's fault and as a head of state of one of the UK's largest and strongest partners, he is entitled to an opinion and is entitled to express it and he does that through speeches. That's how things work. People present other points of view.

That doesn't make it appropriate for any of us to resort to name calling. We can have a civil discourse without coming to blows, or have we reached the point that we settle differences by coming to blows. That would be a very sad day.

And you cannot blame the lack of UK exports on EU rules. There are bigger issues than that and have been for decades. In short, blaming Europe and Obama for the current state of UK is overly simplistic and getting out will not restore the Empire.

 

[teazer]

It was Cheney ...................

Can't argue with that..

 

[snmavridis]

While I have been holding my tongue on these issues, I do have to say I fall in line with teazer. Although, Greece should have dropped out of the EU. Varoufakis had the right idea, unfortunately samaras kicked him out of Parliament because our prime minister is a piece of shit. He ran on a reform platform, got elected, then kept up with the austerity measures. If you're going to be a conservative, run on that platform. Don't run for reform then backtrack on it. Which is my view on the USA elections. Vote for Trump for all I care. While I don't hold his views on immigration, at least he's honest about kicking out immigrants. And same for Bernie. He has a track record that proves power doesn't corrupt him. Hillary on the other hand... She scares me with her pandering and lies.

 

[teazer]

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I think Obama like all presidents did some things right and some wrong. Haven't met one yet that I agree with more than about 40% of teh time.

Trump would probably drop that percentage down by an order of magnitude, and that's a whole other story of lies, half truths and politics.

 

[irk miller]

Blame political correctness on Bill Clinton, and before that Tipper Gore.

 

[VonYinzer]

;D

 

[haircuttergirl]

I lurk a lot and seldom post. I think if Jenn finishes a bike and finally rides one on her own I might not ever come around again. So you know I'm here to stay for a while! ; )-

MOE! hahahaha my bikes may not be finished but I can ride em. Ok, one of them

 

[Stanwich]

God its great to be Canadian!

 

[teazer]

The biggest threat facing Europe today may well be Turkey that Miffa mentioned earlier. They want to get into Europe and that could be a problem. They are cracking down on the press, attacking the Kurds, and demanding a mighty ransom from Europe to stop migrants from sailing to Greece and other countries.

I have a nasty suspicion that they will continue to use that as leverage to demand what they want and an open door to Turkey could be problematic. Angela Merkel is calling for a strong and united Europe to keep non Europeans out. They are trying to address the messy fall out form the Syrian civil war that Russia has been in the middle of, and in that one there are no clear "good guys". She makes much the same argument as Cameron and Obama that nationalism and fracturing the union will lead to increased immigration and political, economic and social pressure.

It's OK though, we will have President Trump in January next year and the Republicans will still be lying to themselves that he won't be that bad and that they can keep him under control, and Democrats believing that Hillary will win , so we'll all be OK.

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

The US needs to stay out and close the doors until THEY figure it out... Screw em they all think poorly of Americans anyway.

Funny thing... I worked with a guy from Turkey his name was Fahti and his wife was Muslim, but he would say he hated Muslims all the time.

 

[irk miller]

Down with the Treaty of Versailles! Down with the Treaty of Sèvres!

 

[farmer92]

God its great to be Canadian!

+1

 

[irk miller]

Bah, it's just old men in the US that stress over this shit. Most Americans could care less. It doesn't have to exist at all, if you don't want it to. My cable has 178 channels, I choose to watch the ones that don't show news all day.

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

+1

Too effin cold with women wearing sweaters all the time.

I Love the US of A

Only place on earth with everything... jungles, deserts, oceans, lakes, rivers, mountains, sand dunes and farm land as far as the mind will allow you to see. We have every resource to survive and people who know how.

Now if I can just get my house done and sold before end of summer and prices free fall I will be set.

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

Bah, it's just old white men in the US that stress over this shit. Most Americans could care less. It doesn't have to exist at all, if you don't want it to. My cable has 178 channels, I choose to watch the ones that don't show news all day.

Fixed... right?

 

[irk miller]

Fixed... right?

Maybe if you're racist. I think old, usually retired, people in general spend a lot of time on TV or the internet obsessing over this stuff- white, black, Hispanic; it doesn't matter.


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[Tune-A-Fish]

Maybe if you're racist. I think old, usually retired, people in general spend a lot of time on TV or the internet obsessing over this stuff- white, black, Hispanic; it doesn't matter.


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I'm really not but I do hear the "old white men" comment a lot these days so had to ask lol... Never miss an opportunity 8)

 

[irk miller]

HA!

 

[Nj732port]

The last sunny day in nj... And my truck<3 just noticed the money marker on the street... Going to rent a jack hammer from Home Depot tomorrow

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

Don't worry about Trump the placeholder... just hope to Jebus we beat Hillary, the woman IS pure evil and will invoke civil unrest so that she can test a gun grab... problem is, the fight will last years and the US will have it's own ISIS but far better armed.