Black out coating over chrome.Anyone done it?

ben2go

Two Wheel Projectile
I bought a V Star back in spring.I am getting ready to put new tires on it.Since the bike is nearly all black,I had considered using that chrome coating that makes the chrome have a blackish tint to it.Has anyone tried this stuff and any tips for applying it?

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/shadow/
 
I have used it and I am a fan. Make sure you follow the directions, its a lot like lens tint if you've ever used that. I can attest to its durability.
 
I have chrome rims and spokes.I haven't decided if I want to do rims only or spokes only.I saw a bike with over sized black spokes and it looked good.BTW,I've never used the light tint spray.
 
@JohnGoFast: Any chance you could post some real world !efore/after pics? Thanks.
 
Hmm interesting.
How does it adhere to the shiny slippery chrome without prep work (sanding) that would mess up the gloss?
 
Black Chrome powder coating. It's a black transparent powder that is meant to go over chrome plating.
 
I decided to black out an air cleaner on an old sportster I had a few years back and the only way to do it so it would last was to take it to a chrome platers and have the chrome chemically removed, and as it was an ali unit, it had to be etch primed first and then painted in the usual way.

As far as I know, this is the only way to repaint chrome for long term results.

I just found this which might answer a few questions about powder coating over chrome.

http://www.toefco.com/is-it-possible-to-powder-coat-chrome.htm
 
kiwi60 said:
I decided to black out an air cleaner on an old sportster I had a few years back and the only way to do it so it would last was to take it to a chrome platers and have the chrome chemically removed, and as it was an ali unit, it had to be etch primed first and then painted in the usual way.

As far as I know, this is the only way to repaint chrome for long term results.

I just found this which might answer a few questions about powder coating over chrome.

http://www.toefco.com/is-it-possible-to-powder-coat-chrome.htm

Let me comment as nicely as I can by saying that article is TOTAL BULLSHIT. I have been professionally powder coating for 6 years now. The name is Creative Candy Powder Coating. I chose the name due to all the Candy color coatings I have done over CHROME PLATING. I have done all kinds of parts and in 6 years I have not had one single part come back due to powder not sticking to it.

These 4wd wheels were coated with a Black Chrome powder over chrome plating 3 years ago. This customer was so anal if anything had gone wrong I would hear from him in less than 24hrs.


Trim rings for same wheels in Candy Red over Chrome Plating:


Big Dog motorcycle handle bars, Candy Red over Chrome Plating:
 
I actually went back and finished reading the article after my rant because I quit reading after I got to the bold lettering that said:
"First and foremost, it's important to realize that you can't powder coat over chrome. The powder coating won't stick to the chrome. In order to do the job properly, you must strip the chrome surface off of the parts and then apply the powder coating."

But then they went on explained that you can coat it.
 
o1marc said:
I actually went back and finished reading the article after my rant because I quit reading after I got to the bold lettering that said:
"First and foremost, it's important to realize that you can't powder coat over chrome. The powder coating won't stick to the chrome. In order to do the job properly, you must strip the chrome surface off of the parts and then apply the powder coating."

But then they went on explained that you can coat it.

I asked about the chrome coating duplicolor sells for my wheels.I know about PC.I used to do train parts.Everything was done in one color,gloss black and was set on a hanging moving rail system.We had no control over settings.Parts came in through one of those doors with the strips of plastic hanging down,we spray the powder as the parts come by,and they continue on to a long oven that stays at 475 degrees or there about.I never got into PC any further but I should have.
 
I don't have any before/after pics, I can say that it did hold up well I tried it on a rim, and a few other bits in 6 months (sold bike) time didn't have any chipping or peeling. I guarantee its nowhere near as strong as PC though.
 
Let me comment as nicely as I can by saying that article is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

Good to have your input 01marc, I'm not a powder coater professional or other wise, and your info has cleared up this area for readers of this thread. :)
 
I agree PC is a lot more durable and longer lasting.I'm just looking for quick n cheep until I get a paint scheme set that I want on my bike.
 
Here's my thoughts on coating over chrome. We all know that having a blasted surface is going to give the powder a better "tooth" to attach to for a longer lasting durability. But I've never had anyone put a number on it. If a blasted surface is best at , let's say, 100 then what is a polished surface at, 90, 75, 50, 25? Will the polished surface powder coating flake off tomorrow, next week, next month, next year or maybe never? Common sense should be used in your judgement on what should be coated or not. I would not coat a chrome piece that is subject to rocks, gravel, etc. thrown at it all day. Handlebars, head lights, etc.- parts that never get touched or abused at all may last forever with coating over plating. As I mentioned before, I can only go by my experience which has been successful with no returns so far. Go to any powder supplier and look at the candy colors and read the fine print that says "For best results use over polished chrome plating, stainless steel or aluminum." I absolutely hate when someone says "You can't do that." but can't or won't explain why it can't be done. I started out with an Eastwood Hotcoat hobby gun. Bottom of the line , cheap powder system for the beginner hobbiest. It does well on small parts for the DIY kind of guy. I started a little niche hobby of candy coating lug nits. With each set of nuts I coated came delivered to you in a small "Crown Royal" type cloth bag. I called that line the "Nut Sack":





I was learning and someone said "You can only coat things that are metal", Really? why? Some one asked if you can coat rocks? I gave it a try knowing what I knew about the coating process and did this,
Rock Candy:



I had a customer want a camo valve cover and called Eastwood and Caswell to see if their guns could do 4 layers. Both said probably not. I got both of them to donate powder for the project to see. I was able to accomplish the task and both companies were impressed with the results:




My point here is don't always believe what you are told. So much of what I learned in high school in history and such I am now finding to have all been completely wrong. I have accomplished a lot of things in my life merely because someone told "It can"t be done", Our World Land Speed Record at Bonneville is another example of many people telling us what we were doing was impossible. We left a lot of rich engineers scratching their heads when we left B'ville in 2011 with a record after a 2-1/2 month frame up build from scratch car.
 
I've done about a hundred brand new chrome parts in various candy/smoke colors and have never had one fail prematurely.

Let's be realistic, though... all coatings no matter how "tough" will eventually fail (except maybe old-school chrome jobs a millimeter thick!) and there are varying degrees of "tough."

Most durable in the customizing world is probably a powder clear over a powder base on properly blasted aluminium. Will that stand up better than a single candy on chrome? Yes but both will handle a LOT more abuse than any kind of paint.

If a coater has reservations about coating chrome he's probably concerned about the chrome itself, not the coating he would apply. Unless he's just not good at candy colors. Or just inexperienced.
 
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