"Cafe Racer" such a loose term! Craigslist "Gem" of the week!

Re: "Cafe Racer" such a loose term! Craigslist "Gem" of the week!


jag767 said:
http://evansville.craigslist.org/mcy/5616918666.html
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Looks pretty well done, at least. "Price reduced"


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adventurco said:
Looks pretty well done, at least. "Price reduced"


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Looks nice. Worth $7000 if a used Thuxton is worth $7995.
 
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adventurco said:
Looks pretty well done, at least. "Price reduced"


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that thing is going to kill somebody he has the geometry screwed over so far to the squirlky side a tank slapper is going to happen and the chain unless he has a staionary roller up front the chain is tight enough to break shit
its an other sign of a clueless motherfucker building a pure deathtrap
yes he is a ton member, shame on him for being a clueless moron,and endangering the buyer,by attempting to sell a deathrap as a near pro designed racer, fucking hilarious
 
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xb33bsa said:
that thing is going to kill somebody he has the geometry screwed over so far to the squirlky side a tank slapper is going to happen and the chain unless he has a staionary roller up front the chain is tight enough to break shit
its an other sign of a clueless motherfucker building a pure deathtrap
yes he is a ton member, shame on him for being a clueless moron,and endangering the buyer,by attempting to sell a deathrap as a near pro designed racer, fucking hilarious
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How is the geometry so bad? It looks like it'll do, no?
 
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snmavridis said:
How is the geometry so bad? It looks like it'll do, no?
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He doesn't like how the front forks are lowered in the triple clamp I'm guessing.
 
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jag767 said:
He doesn't like how the front forks are lowered in the triple clamp I'm guessing.
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It really bugs my ass when people do that because they like the look and don't care about screwing up the handling and making an unsafe bike.
 
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CarbsAndCylinders said:
It really bugs my ass when people do that because they like the look and don't care about screwing up the handling and making an unsafe bike.
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It's not my favorite thing to see someone do, unless of course they had the foresight to adjust the back lower as well, but keep the correct suspension travel on both ends. Problem is, no one does that.
 
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jag767 said:
It's not my favorite thing to see someone do, unless of course they had the foresight to adjust the back lower as well, but keep the correct suspension travel on both ends. Problem is, no one does that.
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That's because lowering a bike in general is a bad idea. Bikes don't work like cars where a lower CG is beneficial. Lowering will just cause parts to drag/scrape sooner.
 
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o1marc said:
That's because lowering a bike in general is a bad idea. Bikes don't work like cars where a lower CG is beneficial. Lowering will just cause parts to drag/scrape sooner.
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Well its obviously most often for an aesthetic, and I have lowered a few old cb's an inch to 1.5 inches in the front myself just by using a different top triple clamp, or by swapping a front end out. Fyi nothing bad happens at all, they ride great. That being said, this guy lowered it a lot more than that.
 
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o1marc said:
That's because lowering a bike in general is a bad idea. Bikes don't work like cars where a lower CG is beneficial. Lowering will just cause parts to drag/scrape sooner.
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Exactly. I think a lot of people building "cafe racers" today where not around back when the list of mandatory mods included ditching the center stand, fitting rearsets to raise the pegs, getting a different exhaust that tucked in higher and tighter under the bike, just so you would NOT be decking out hard parts in the middle of a turn. But those considerations assume one is actually going to ride hard in the twisties, not just troll main st. looking cool. I still have vivid memories of chasing a buddy on his then brand new FZ400 (the first one back in '85 or so) down a local road we had ridden many many times and had pretty well sorted out. My tricked out RD350 could run with the 750's and bigger of the day down that road no sweat, often leaving them behind. But that little factory box stock race rep on that day just flew down the road. Got sucked into a corner faster than we ever had before, he rounded it with lean angle to spare..I had my toes and peg end on the deck with no lean left and the outside of the turn coming up fast. I held my breath and held my line and made it through with inches to spare from the trees. Good tires and ground clearance... priceless.
 
I would say its safe to say 90% of the sport bikes on the road will have a bald contact patch to 25 deg then a brand new tire all the way to the chicken strips :eek:
 
Shoeman said:
Exactly. I think a lot of people building "cafe racers" today where not around back when the list of mandatory mods included ditching the center stand, fitting rearsets to raise the pegs, getting a different exhaust that tucked in higher and tighter under the bike, just so you would NOT be decking out hard parts in the middle of a turn. But those considerations assume one is actually going to ride hard in the twisties, not just troll main st. looking cool. I still have vivid memories of chasing a buddy on his then brand new FZ400 (the first one back in '85 or so) down a local road we had ridden many many times and had pretty well sorted out. My tricked out RD350 could run with the 750's and bigger of the day down that road no sweat, often leaving them behind. But that little factory box stock race rep on that day just flew down the road. Got sucked into a corner faster than we ever had before, he rounded it with lean angle to spare..I had my toes and peg end on the deck with no lean left and the outside of the turn coming up fast. I held my breath and held my line and made it through with inches to spare from the trees. Good tires and ground clearance... priceless.
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Well said Shoeman! I remember similar experiences chasing my buddy back "in the day"! :D The only thing I would add is good brakes. ;) These are among the first things I attend to on ALL of my bikes. 8)

Raising and lowering bikes can be beneficial or detrimental depending on the particular model of bike. Maintaining the proper balance between the areas of ground clearance, quick steering and suspension travel while cruising, accelerating and braking is vital. :) Take advantage of those who have "gone before you" when it comes to your particular bike. 8) There's nothing as nice as a 'well sorted' bike that you can have full confidence in. 8)
 
Tune-A-Fish said:
I would say its safe to say 90% of the sport bikes on the road will have a bald contact patch to 25 deg then a brand new tire all the way to the chicken strips :eek:
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I did some powder coating on a ZX10 and realized right away the guy was not a "rider" when I looked at the back tire and it had cord showing in the middle and still had nipples on the shoulders. He was obviously into burnouts and wheelies and not what the bike was intended for, lame.
 
As a kid, I had a 1969 Honda 750, at 100m.p.h. it would go into a death wobble... I replaced the front springs with Progressive springs and a little heavier fork oil, same thing, at 100 it would just shake your teeth out. Ran into Malcom Smith and he suggested to drop the forks 1". From that point on it handled great. The 750 wasn't known for handling, but the shake was just unacceptable and finding a cure really helped my confidence in the bike. I see what some of these guys have done and just cringe knowing what they've done is going to damage somebody down the road. Luckily most don't really ride to a bikes limit, but dropping the forks can cause a lot of havoc if you don't understand what can happen if done improperly...
 
ApriliaBill said:
As a kid, I had a 1969 Honda 750, at 100m.p.h. it would go into a death wobble... I replaced the front springs with Progressive springs and a little heavier fork oil, same thing, at 100 it would just shake your teeth out. Ran into Malcom Smith and he suggested to drop the forks 1". From that point on it handled great. The 750 wasn't known for handling, but the shake was just unacceptable and finding a cure really helped my confidence in the bike. I see what some of these guys have done and just cringe knowing what they've done is going to damage somebody down the road. Luckily most don't really ride to a bikes limit, but dropping the forks can cause a lot of havoc if you don't understand what can happen if done improperly...
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that fella with the dohc 750 k raised up the rear a lot as well,in case no one saw that,witness the swingarm angle,he raised it at least 3"
i can only assume ,the motherfucker is so stupid, he figgerd dropping the front 3 would cancel out the rear raised 3
wtf else could it be ? not aesthetics cause it really looks awefull like a car builder who never even learnt to ride a bicycle decided it was time to show the mowtoes how to build a racer
the biggest burn of all is the motherfucker has the nerve to basically say it is a great design and a great motorcycle to ride, you should buy it, i built it just like a pro
it hasn't even been properly and thorouly test ridden like an oem does with every new design change model so they don't foist a trojan horse booby trap on a hapless public
the pro builder, dohc boy,has more radically molested , changed the charicteristics in one year more than the cumilative or otherwise ,changes than there has been in the entire history of mof motorcycles on this planet
nope cause it wouldnt be getting sold, for anything but scrap after the wreck
after all he built this fine looking great riding bike and now you can buy this same as a pro bilt unit
 
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