Cause I like to bomb hills... It kinda what we do when the surf is flat

SWEET!!!!

i just got into longboarding. great practice when theres no snow on the mountains.


i dislike regular trick skating; too trendy and lacks originality.

I ride a pretty short board though... 33" bustinboard with krux the man trucks and 70mm oj 3 wheels that are impossible to slide.
 
I have built a few boards too... I am actually involved in a lot of the R&D in the boards... let me know if you have any questions... I have seen and ridden just about everything and know what works and what is plain dangerous.
 
dakine_surf said:
I have built a few boards too... I am actually involved in a lot of the R&D in the boards... let me know if you have any questions... I have seen and ridden just about everything and know what works and what is plain dangerous.
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no way man! you work for them?

shoot me some pointers over PM! i get the basics of it... also researched making a snowboard (ended up ditching the project because it was too time consuming) so i was thinking of making a press mold rather then just doing the weighted kind of mold thats really popular.
 
i skateboarded for over a decade religiously , but down hill longboarding scares the shit out of me . gave up skateboarding due to my job but i still snowboard alot in the winter , snows more forgiving (sometimes)
 
oh man that looked fun. we used to bomb hills when i was a kid. my friend made some boards and we would go search out hills. we were more about going fast, no sliding. that sliding reminds me of the movie Thrashin. so cool. we blew it though and missed our opportunity to bomb the 73 toll road before it opened.
 
Screwed and Tattooed said:
i skateboarded for over a decade religiously , but down hill longboarding scares the shit out of me . gave up skateboarding due to my job but i still snowboard alot in the winter , snows more forgiving (sometimes)
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my boss was sponsored and snowboarded professionally for a while. started snowboarding with him this past winter. he pushes my limits way past what id thought id ever do.

snow stops being forgiving when your flying down double blacks doing 60 plus mph.

my ribs still hurt from one trail... note to self; dont pray on satanicly named trails.
 
Rocan said:
no way man! you work for them?
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No I don't "work" for them, but I have been riding my whole life... a couple buddies started it a few years ago and I have worked with them giving pointers, testing, and throwin my .02 around. I used to mountain board semi-competitively so the theories and physics are the same for the most part.

As far as boards go, The camber between the trucks is a large part of the locomotion of the board. (high rebound bushings or springs in the trucks, as well as the side to side movement of high rebound wheels contribute as well and should be used in conjunction for maximum effect).

Pre-cambering the board results in a specific amount of potential energy embedded in the board. Flattening out the camber when standing on the board implies that pressure equal to rider weight is pressing back up. In technical terms, the board at this point is 'dynamically loaded'.

So what the heck am I talking about? Picture this, bombing a hill and going fast (normally faster than you should ;D :eek:) you are into your first turn, and bending your knees, using the g-force in addition to your weight to push down on the deck so that it’s negatively cambered. As you come outta the turn you will straighten your legs and the board will rebound back at you with most of the energy you pushed down with.

I am sure you know this already but a softer flex pattern will give you more control and tighter turns at a wide range of speeds, but tends to lose stability slightly at higher speeds. Stiffer flex means more energy potential and more stability at higher speeds, but will not be as forgiving and lively when cruising.

So where am I going with all this... ??? basically concave cambers: makes the board more responsive with increased control. Compound contours: stiffen the board for higher energy potential.

Alright i will finish up saying that, while you can build a fun board, and the built not bought thing is definitely worth trying, there is a reason why I do not ride boards that I make anymore. Also when building a good carving board think snowboard, not skateboard.

You really want to use bamboo for the core. It is strong as crap and offers good flex, but most importantly has excellent 'memory' but you need vertical laminates to keep rigidity. You want to sandwich your core with heavyweight glass (a combo of Diagonal and longitudinal axis glass fiber weave for best results) this wil give you good length and torsional stiffness (hahaha, that made me laugh ;D ;D) Carbon fiber also works great as a stringer as it is super light and can add lots of stiffness ( there it is again, and again I am giggling ;D, i guess I have a dirty mind.) It also ensures that you will not break the board under load. You might think that that would be impossible, but at 30+ mph tons of forces are at play and poorly made boards can shatter which is no fun.

Shit I just realized I have been typing for 40 min... This really was not meant to stray you away from building, just to give you some info. I know you backed out of the snowboard thing ( I have built those too) but a good skate is very similar to a snowboard. ok you get the idea, now go build away... Like I said, let me know if you have questions... I have done this once or twice ;D the main thing is to approach it safely.

PS Anything that you ride that sees speeds in excess of 50+mph really needs to be approached with caution, skates are no exception.
 
Cheers for the theory, Dakine. Cool to know whats happening when you're riding a board like that.

Wouldn't mind getting a longboard myself, have ridden a mates mountainboard a few times and thought it was awesome fun. Plus, I really like my snowboarding...but Australia is the worlds most desertified country, so a longboard would really help out there.

Awesome videos, too. That first one with Third Eye Blind's 'Slow Motion' reminds me of myself snowboarding - I have almost those exact same movements and speed position. Kinda cool watching somone else do it. Totally freaked by the guys lack of protective gear, though. Might sound naff as hell but I'd be going down that hill with at least knee and elbow pads, if not a leather race suit.

Cheers again - boingk
 
Nice videos! Longboarding really is a great feeling. I just went cruising down some mild hills last night.
My nephew owns a longboard company that does full customs. I gave him some ideas for a shape that resembles a surfboard and this bamboo creation is what he made. Paired with some Carver trucks, it's feels more like surfing that any other board I've tried. Total fun.
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Shameless plug: www.bclongboards.com
 
Thats some crazy shit. I miss snowboarding. I was never a good skateboarder but if the board was strapped to my feet I was golden. had a lot of fun doing it. Might try to make a trip somewhere someday and take the wife with me Shes seen snow like once. a little bit of snow. Hell just going sledding would be cool.
 
So I got a couple PM's about the chase vehicles and camera setups to film some of the down hill sessions. Pursuit Systems INC was used to film the second video. They have amazing rigs, but it is better explained on this video and the website. They are located here in CA, and they are the only reason good car chase scenes are even possible.

Pursuit Systems

http://www.pursuitsystems.com/
 
triumphrider74 said:
Nice videos! Longboarding really is a great feeling. I just went cruising down some mild hills last night.
My nephew owns a longboard company that does full customs. I gave him some ideas for a shape that resembles a surfboard and this bamboo creation is what he made. Paired with some Carver trucks, it's feels more like surfing that any other board I've tried. Total fun.
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Shameless plug: www.bclongboards.com
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Looks really nice, I have ridden those carvers a couple times, fun trucks. I would do an downhill on them, but for around town, and cruising, nothing replicates the feel of a surfboard quite like em. Looks like he builds some nice stuff!
 
pretty kool thread, i just sold my freebord not too long ago (needed the money) but ill buy a new one soon...my cousin is into longboarding and he got a real good deal on a full custom by a guy that builds em here in ftcollins. co....burn longboards, i road it and loved it so maybe ill have to get in touch with him, but im too into my skateboarding and freebording, but i longboard too, its a board with wheels
 
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