CL350 Rear Swing Arm Options

[doc_rot]

So basically you didn't think it through

The simple solution is to extend and strengthen.


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strength≠rigidity. (edit: one is not indicative of the other) it can still be a noodle with a 4" extension on the stock diameter tube. adding a bunch of material inside is going to add some rigidity but becuase there is more leverage on the swing-arm now it will negate a portion of that. it can be a strong noodle. look at rebar... btw i am not saying this extension isn't safe, but I am saying you don't have to sacrifice as much performance for about the same price.

 

[DohcBikes]

blah blah blah fuck off doc you dont have a clue

 

[doc_rot]

blah blah blah fuck off doc you dont have a clue

you always have to be a dick. Or is this you "stirring marbles in the jelly" lol

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

strength≠rigidity. (edit: one is not indicative of the other) it can still be a noodle with a 4" extension on the stock diameter tube. adding a bunch of material inside is going to add some rigidity but becuase there is more leverage on the swing-arm now it will negate a portion of that. it can be a strong noodle. look at rebar... btw i am not saying this extension isn't safe, but I am saying you don't have to sacrifice as much performance for about the same price.

I wasn't arguing your point, but only making my own.

So much tension these days... Trump? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[CarbsAndCylinders]

Lengthening the swingarm on this bike violates the basic principle of a Cafe Racer which is to make it faster in every way. You can make a great looking bike without screwing up the handling.

 

[jpmobius]

1) Lengthening the swingarm for your application is a performance down grade.
2) Lengthening the stock tubes on any swingarm will make it significantly more flexible, Doesn't matter who does it, what technique they use, how expert they are or how awesome there skill level is. Whether or not this is important depends on the application. It is not hard to do safely.
3) Lengthening the swing arm obviously lengthens the wheel base. Longer vehicles are less nimble.
4) If the improved appearance or stance of your bike is worth the functional trade offs to you, then it is a good idea. Personally, I prefer good looking girls, I don't care if they can't cook - I can navigate the kitchen without assistance!

 

[DohcBikes]

If you all havent noticed he isnt building a cafe racer and he doesnt give a fuck

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

1) Lengthening the swingarm for your application is a performance down grade.

Application was mentioned? I missed it

2) Lengthening the stock tubes on any swingarm will make it significantly more flexible, Doesn't matter who does it, what technique they use, how expert they are or how awesome there skill level is. Whether or not this is important depends on the application. It is not hard to do safely.

I disagree, your cred just dropped a notch. see image.

3) Lengthening the swing arm obviously lengthens the wheel base. Longer vehicles are less nimble.

What a Drag :

4) If the improved appearance or stance of your bike is worth the functional trade offs to you, then it is a good idea. Personally, I prefer good looking girls, I don't care if they can't cook - I can navigate the kitchen without assistance!

I like a super sexy chef in da kitchen :-*

The best answer is... "It's not any of your business if he wants a stance or straight line perf or fried or scrambled"

I prefer my toco raw.

You didn't say round tube

 

[farmer92]

Personally, I prefer good looking girls, I don't care if they can't cook - I can navigate the kitchen without assistance!

What if she bangs like a tranquilized mattress?

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[jpmobius]

Application was mentioned? I missed it

Yes only doing for looks.

Ok. I agree, that doesn't exactly work out to be an application. Presumed that "looks" is not a synonym for drag racing or hill climbing. Also presumptuous to assess a performance down grade otherwise as a consideration. My bad.

I disagree, your cred just dropped a notch. see image.

LOL - I'm crushed!! Hope you reconsider - at least the claim! A longer tube (all things being equal) will have more deflection both in beam and in torsion than a shorter identical tube regardless of section with the same applied force. As far as the moment about the swingarm pivot (against the other arm), a longer arm provides more torque from the same force. More bendy all three ways. Doesn't mean it won't work or even be necessarily dangerous (though could be), just more bendy!

Not too sure how the pic applies!?

The best answer is... "It's not any of your business if he wants a stance or straight line perf or fried or scrambled"

Not sure if that's the best answer - but it is a good answer!

What if she bangs like a tranquilized mattress?

Deal breaker. Well, you did ask. Not only do I know where the kitchen is, I also already own a mattress - you gotta have standards!

 

[CarbsAndCylinders]

If you all havent noticed he isnt building a cafe racer and he doesnt give a fuck

Thanks so much for pointing this out, I misread one of his posts. I still think it is a bad idea. He can do what ever he wants but he has asked for opinions.

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

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[mtbike]

Wow I'm gone a few days and look what happens!!! So all the emotions aside, It sounds like the best answer is either lower the existing suspension all the way around a inch or two and shorten seat and/cowl to give the bike a longer look or find a rebel 250 swing arm that already has desired beef, assuming it's bolt in with little or no mods ness.? Anyone have any info on length differences on a rebel SA vs Cl SA? Any idea if factory axle and such bolts up happy? Going the other direction and keeping the same SA, what shorter shock options are recommended. CL's are 12.5" and looks like tire to factory frame has about 4.5" clearance. Thinking 2" drop would be safe as long as I only ride with skinny good looking chicks that can't cook? This would mean I couldn't shorten the seat and the shorter shocks would need to be stiffer than orig. I read many posts, and IIRK, once again the rebel came up as a shock donnor.

 

[mtbike]

BTW don't put the rear axle above the swingarm pivot like that last bike. This will cause the bike to squat under acceleration, which is the opposite of what you want in a turn.

Yea. This makes sense and I agree. It also looks poor IMO. Still a sweet looking bike though.

 

[jpmobius]

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Don't make me stop this car!

 

[Rider52]

I'll measure a stock SL350 swingarm tomorrow and compare it to a Rebel swingarm. I just happen to have both in the shop at the moment.
John