CL360 running like crap, what jets should I buy for carbs?

yep once u got it. theres really nothing to it. Static timing is like a 10 minute job starting from scratch.

set left gap, dial it in, set right to suit and done.

now you just got to put the strobe to it and tweak em in. she will be good to go.
 
IS your website link broken? I cant see any timing instructions...


trek97 said:
yep if its backfiring through the carbs, sounds like your timing may require adjustment.

BTW just saying if you order 120s or 115s without sending those carbs to PJ you are wasting your money and time and efforts.

Surely, By now you got to be asking your self...

"If its running rich at 2k rpm, How will installing larger (richer) Main Secondaries (4k + rpm) gonna help with that?"

ANSWER...ITS NOT

So, go back, click the link I posted, DO EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST.

Link to Bills timing instruction .PDF download

http://www.hondabrat.com/2013/04/manuals.html
 
Ugh yes, you were supposed to have downloaded them. that way you would have em forever. I will get it back on tonight. Then you can get them.
 
One thing I wanted to chime in on...360 Hondas are notorious for carb problems. Yes, for heavens sake tune your engine, a sick engine will never work right, but one thing people often overlook on these carbs is the needle jet itself (the little spool shaped piece of brass that sits in the carburetor venturi above the emulsion tube). They don't come in any of the kits I have ever seen and are often in terrible condition...particularly on the left carburetor. They use the same needle jet as the early (pre-supersport) SOHC Honda 750. The last time I tried to get them they have gone out of production, but some can still be found on Ebay.
 
+1 On goldy's suggestion, 360 carbs need to be so clean you would be proud to serve your mom a shot a of vodka out of them. Don't screw with jets until you have everything else mentioned checked and rechecked. Changing more than one thing at a time is a nightmare to trouble shoot and will lead you to chasing your tail repeatedly.

Another thought, is the engine even firing on both sides? They will barely run on one side and might pull you around in 1st gear.
 
And then keeping carbs clean what fuel filters do you recommend. links? can be little ones with the micron stone cause low fuel pressure?
 
Make bloody good and sure your fuel tank is clean before you try to run the machine...there is no filter this side of hell that can keep ALL the fine sediment out of your carbs. There is already a filter on the petcock, but you can add an additional one in the fuel lines...I've never had any issue running the ones fitted with the sintered bronze core...I'm sort of partial to these little ones too- http://www.partsnmore.com/parts/honda/cb360t/?filters[category]=carb&filters[fitting]=universal
(part # 20-0013)
 
ok the link for manuals works. You better download all of them it will be down again soon and for a while.
 
Thanks 4 the link, just saved that PFT trek.

Goldy. What kind of finters are on that 200013 filter? Is it a nylon screen or a stone? They have good flow?

What about this smaller version #20-0008?
 
The 20013 have the nylon screen...good flow and transparent so you can see if you are getting any sort of accumulation in the filter itself. Not sure about the filter media in the other ones, but I think those ones are opaque plastic...I prefer to be able to see through the filter.
 
The 20013 is a cream colored plastic too though right? Or is it a clear? The 20008 looks like a smaller version?

It probably has really good flow compared to those stone filters that are clear and cone shaped and really small. I am running those right now and have a feeling it's causing low fuel pressure.
 
I'm using this on each fuel hose
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This square one looks cool. And had the Dans
same number but is it the same? https://www.mikesxs.net/product/20-0013.html
 
It doesn't really matter what jets you fit, if you remove stock air box it will not run right between 4~7,000 rpm. If you fit too short an exhaust, you are just creating more problems for yourself. The 3 jet (pilot, primary main, secondary main) carbs are very difficult to tune on the transitions, 'standard' carb diagrams and methods just don't work (bigger main jet, raise needle, mess with air screw ::) )
 
bubonicplay said:
I'm using this on each fuel hose
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Those filters with the sintered bronze elements are awful. They have a high restriction and being small, can clog quickly. Those type of filters are better with a fuel pump.

Get paper element fuel filters. Ones for lawn mowers. Low restriction and good filtering.

As PJ said, short pipes, pods, never can be tuned well. Stock airbox and long pipes give the most performance from a stock engine.
 
Just thought I would throw this out there...carbs from a 350 work perfectly on a 360 without any of the annoying 360 carb issues.
 
goldy said:
Just thought I would throw this out there...carbs from a 350 work perfectly on a 360 without any of the annoying 360 carb issues.

Im a little intrigued. Please post a pic of your current set up for this. head pipes, mufflers, filters, detail shots of the carbs installed, insulators you use, linkages and such. Any jetting changes, etc. basically the bike as its set up and running good right now.
 
I would love to give you pics, but it's not my bike. The possibility of changing them over was a favorite topic of discussion between a few of my friends. One of them took the plunge and fitted the CV carbs from a "for parts" 350 to a 360 that he was trying to get it to run properly for years. He used the standard 350 carbs and cables with no modifications whatsoever except for using a hose clamp on the spigots (the 350 carbs are slightly smaller, of course). Stock air filters, stock exhaust. He has been riding it around in this state for the past two summers, the bike is running perfectly he has never looked back.
Love your avatar!
 
This is very interesting news. I'm about the get a '72 CB350 to part out. I was going to send my 360 carbs to crazypj for his majic touch, but if I can put the ones from the 350 on there I will keep 'em instead of selling them off.
 
goldy said:
Just thought I would throw this out there...carbs from a 350 work perfectly on a 360 without any of the annoying 360 carb issues.

Uuummm, with 'pods', no they don't.
The only reason they appear to work is the smaller bore size
With stock 360 air filters and exhaust, about the only thing he's done is loose some top end power
 
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