"Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently

Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently

Not sure what you are asking, but here is some good advice pertaining to your last pic. Always turn your torque wrenches back to its lowest setting when not in use. It messes with the calibration when you don't
 
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Whoa.. I didn't think that posted. Red, thanks for the tip, I'll definitely heed the advice.
 
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Got my rim in last week after Christmas, hopefully going to be dismantling that today and cleaning it up. Might get the rim and hub clear powder coated.. Might just get the spokes and put it together raw and wait till I get the bike complete before I choose color and get it trued. But here is a picture of how I got it.

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Holy crap - how out of balance was that tire that it needed 4 huge spoke weights?
 
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Haha I noticed that too! I shrugged it off cause the tire is off now, brought it and the two old steel rims to the shop, $30 to get all the old crusty tires off. Worth It for me as I don't have to take out the sawzall to them or spend hours on them.. I'm off to our marina to cut the spokes off the alu rim so I can clean up the hub and rim properly.



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Also, the front wheel is the correct wheel for the 350f but the rear is definitely not. It's a 17x4" rim with a hub that is definitely not stock. If I can use the hub I will, but that rim will be sold with the front wheel. I'll put it up in the selling thread later on. Pictures of the rear and one of the front, last.

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Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently

ooh i remember those babys polished until my fingers nearly bled :'( but worth it in the end ;D damn site cheaper than new rims n spokes for the price of a couple of polish mops n wax used a wire wheel too pleased with the spokes wouldnt want to respoke that seems like a black art haha 8) see what ya think pics are pants soz
 

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Re: "Dago Roller" Offshore Update - Rear Wheel Inquiry

Offshore now for the next 3 weeks and some change.. Will be buying springs and emulators, and seals for my front end so I can rebuild that when I get home. Along with some spokes probably. I'm looking to get this thing a roller while i'm off this time. Question now is what rear wheel I should go with.. Is disc brake something I should look into, if not I have that drum brake hub at home I'm sure will fit it but need to look into what 19" rim I can fit it with. I'm still not sure what hub it is from, the 17" rim that was on it was a 4" rim which makes me think the PO was attempting some bobber/chopper with it since I have some ape hangers in the backyard that came with it.

Bottom line is, should I look into disc brake for the rear or should I just stick to drum. And if either or, which wheel is compatible.. I hate asking these questions but I have nothing to look at while I'm on the ship so googling doesn't help as I'm shooting in the dark here.. Just trying to get a rolling frame so I can say I'm getting somewhere.
 
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Ronnie, maybe I'm missing something......but why 19"?

I would stick with the stock drum brake for simplicity sake. Is your drum hub the stock 36 spoke hub? If it is and you go with an 18" hoop (all stock parts), the entire process would be really easy.
 
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19" for asthetics really.. I don't have a problem with drum, that was a general question, I definitely know it will be easier and cheaper. I dont know if the wheel that came with all the parts is the stock hub. I definitely know its not a stock rim as its a 4" by 17" (it's the rim in "post #85" up the page a bit.). I'm pretty positive that the 350f didn't come with a rear 4" rim. And I would be scouring the net for an 19" aluminum rim since I scored a 19" Al rim for the front. If you can tell what hub that is, I'm pretty sure its the stock hub with some other rim. If that is the case I just need to find another rim for it. That would work out great. 3.5" is the correct width for the 350/400f correct? Or should I consider getting something larger since its really a ~450cc bike? I dont "want" to go bigger for looks, just want it to handle correctly and efficiently, but want the size to be correct if you know what I mean..
 
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Oh, I see. I "think" there was some kind of chopper kit sold back in the day or something - I have seen a couple older Honda's with a rear wheel like that, and usually had extended forks as well. Matter of fact, Mentat (a PA local) had a 350F that the PO had given the cruiser treatment to.

There was a thread very recently about a 19" rear wheel being used. The biggest obstacle IMO is the severe lack of rear 19" tires available. They are out there, but not as common as 18". Another possible issue is swingarm clearance - a 19" tire needs the extra 1/2" space to clear. Not that big of a deal.....just get a slightly longer chain.

Other than tire selection.......you would need a 19" rim, with 36 spoke holes (counted from that hub above), and the rim would need to be drilled for a drum brake. Different angles than a disc brake hub.
 
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Yea that had to be it.. There are some ape hangers and the front forks had no front fender, just a homemade aluminum fork brace. I couldn't tell if they were longer or not, seemed normal to me though I didn't measure them.

Yea, I saw something on another thread about 19" being harder to find. I'm in port now so I can surf the net faster ill look at my options. I'm assuming I should be looking for 3.5" wide for the rear correct? I'm not to concerned with the clearance just yet, it is only 1/2" so if it is an issue ill just use inch longer shocks or the longer chain like you mentioned.

That's neat they had kits around to make them cruisers, they are smooth at speeds, no bad vibrations or anything.

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yeah the stocks are 18" front n rear 3.5" rear and 3.00" for the front i went for a 3.25" for the front dunlop 80'S got great tread pattern and plenty of depth cos ime keeping back and front end stock i stayed with these but could easily take 4.00" & 3.50" it also saved me money,only replaced new rim tapes ( a must for tube / spoke wheels ) new innertube and tyres kept drum brake it looks the part gud look mate
 

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Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently

Yea thanks for the help yorkie, I'll keep my eyes open for a 3.5 rear rim. I'm sure I'll find something sooner or later. I'm going to look for tires after I get off watch and have time and see what my options are.

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Ronnie, the stock tire is 3.5" on a 1.85" wide wheel. That's the equivalent of a 100/90 tire. To bump up that size to say.....a 110/90, you need a 2.15" wide wheel.
 
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Oh okay thanks a bunch Rich, I would definitely be looking at the wrong stuff haha.. I'm learning, I'm learning!

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All good homey! Nobody was born with knowledge.....only the ability to learn.

While I haven't looked for wheels for a little while......I would guess that finding a 19" hoop, that was drilled for a brake hub, and 2.15" wide isn't just floating around on eBay. Might have to contact the folks at Buchanan's.
 
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I have been looking and there really isn't much more selection for 18" tires either.. It's only marginally more than 19" tires. You are pretty much limited to Avon roadriders for 19" and 18" you have Avons, and Pirelli and Continentals and both of those you would have to bump up to a 100/90 on the front to have a matched set. So I think I'll just use whatever I can find in regards to size. If I can find a 19" great, if I only score a 18" that's fine too. But I'll probably still be getting the Avons, which from what I hear and see on the net they are pretty good tires.
 
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Hey ronnie!

The stock wheels on the XS that matches your front are 18" rear. That wheel you have is a "chopperized" stock 350f rear wheel. Stock hub with cruiser hoop. Like Rich said, it was common back in the day. One option you can look at if you want to use dual 19" wheels is to grab another front 19" hoop. The spoke angles will be wrong as they're drilled stock, but they can be drilled out to the correct angle and then you use spoke nipple washers on the inside of the hoop under the nipple to take up the slack in the holes. One option would be to snag a Mike's hoop to lace the rear up with:

https://www.mikesxs.net/product/34-2019.html

Keep in mind if you do this, it's a 2.15 hoop, so it will give you a skinny tire out back. You shouldn't have a problem running a 100 series tire on a 2.15 hoop. It's not standard, but will work without pinching the tire. I've run them before this way (Gretta).

One last option is to lace up a rear dirt bike hub with a disk on it already. The only thing you'll have to do then is get the correct spokes, and a sprocket in the right tooth count and it would work great, even with a 19". The good thing about doing this is that a front drilled hoop would be perfect and wouldn't need re-drilled for the fatter drum brake. You'll have to of course make the correct spacers to center it in your stock swing arm, and snag a caliper and caliper carrier to run the rear hydraulics. Something like this CR rear hub for example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CR250-HONDA-1989-CR-250-89-REAR-HUB-/300619430293?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fe507995&vxp=mtr

Bearings may need changed to match stock rear axle, but no biggie.

Hope this helps.
 
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