Ducati Pricing

DesmoDog said:
IMHO a Ducati isn't a bike you buy just because one came up for sale locally, Unless you're willing to gamble. If you don't know what you're looking at it's easy to get taken. A lot of times the guy selling it has no clue what he's talking about so even with the best intentions it can be a bad deal. CRs with full farings so the seller is convinced it's an SP. Or a yellow SP and the guy thinks that means it's a superlight. That sort of thing. It's especially bad with the vintage bikes but that's a different post.

Absolutely. Ducati loves to come out with special limited editions, and multiple models of the same bike. It can get hard to tell which is which sometimes even for people who know the bikes. Hell there's quite a difference in price just between the 1098, 1098s, and 1098s TriColore, and knowing the difference between them can be a subtle thing sometimes especially when people start swapping in aftermarket parts.

You could park a base model brand new 1199 Panigale with an $18k price tag right next to the 1199 SuperLeggera with a $65k pricetag and most people (even riders) would have a hard time telling the difference.
 
buckeyebike said:
Local example . . . absolutely no clue what it's worth:

http://columbus.craigslist.org/mcy/4290489616.html

Well that one is pretty easy since it's a current model, and about as new as they come. MSRP is $24,495. That guy is asking $19k for one with 21 miles on it that is a year old. Unless it's been dropped, which it doesn't look like it has I'd say it's not a bad deal. Blue book may say differently because it's still considered "USED" but you'd be hard pressed to find a comparable one for less.
 
Production numbers for Ducati, about 34,000 per year total. Maintenance costs on a Ducati are what get most of them to sell. For instance, there are very few who are willing to drop the coin for the 15k mile service on a newer Ducati. That includes valve adjustment and timing belt change. Older Ducati need this at 5k to 7.5k miles. My main ride is a 2012 Monster 696. I go the maintenance package, which cost way more than the comparable package for my wife's Spyder. If you can do the work yourself, they're great bikes.
 
I've found that whole maintenance cost thing to be a myth mostly. My 1098 had 24k miles on it when I bought it and since I'm long time friends with the sales guy he was kind enough to print out all the service history. It had the "major" valve service done 3 times, and it only needed adjustment once. That one cost $40 more than the other 2 at a total of $420. Knowing what goes into that service, I'll gladly pay to have it done next time rather than waste my time doing it myself. I'm fully capable, and have all the tools, but on a sensitive task for a bike that nice and expensive i'd rather pay someone who does it all the time.

Yes, it does need to be done more often than a japanese bike, but lets be real, my bike has a lot more miles on it than most motorcycles of the same age. It's just not something you do that often.
 
I agree that the maintenance cost is mostly a myth. The timing belts are fairly inexpensive from the aftermarket, and the tension can be adjusted by "plucking" the belts like a guitar string and using one of many guitar tuning smartphone apps.

Like StinkBug said, many times the valves are still in adjustment when they are checked. On my old Monster, according to the service history, they had been checked four times and only adjusted on the first service.

In my very simplistic opinion, if you are interested in buying an older Duc, the fact that it runs is a good sign. If it runs and there's no smoke and no knocks, the timing belts haven't broken, the various carb/fuel injection bits are working, and the bottom end is probably ok. If the seller doesn't have maintenance records, you can beat them up on the price based on the current going rate for a valve adjustment and belt replacement at your local Ducati dealer and then do the service yourself for cheap.

Well, cheap until you have to buy an $80 fuel level sender after getting stranded out of gas twice. And then dealing with Belgian Customs when they stop your order between Italy and you for some mysterious reason.
 
LOL, glad to hear I'm not the only one with fuel level sender issues. I asked my buddy at the dealer about it and he told me to not even bother fixing it because the sender design is just shit. Apparently it's some kind of moisture probe, and even when functioning properly a little sloshing will keep it wet enough for the light to not come on. I just track mileage now.
 
In my '05 Monster, it was a temperature sensor - basically a thermistor. When it was covered with fuel, it was "colder", but when it was uncovered, it became "warmer" and turned on a light.

However, I live where the difference in temperature between the gas in the tank and the air outside is often negligible. I just ended up riding by the trip meter as I should have been doing all along, like you said.
 
Worst cb650 ever said:
However, I live where the difference in temperature between the gas in the tank and the air outside is often negligible.

Everyone lives in a place like that...
 
StinkBug said:
LOL, glad to hear I'm not the only one with fuel level sender issues. I asked my buddy at the dealer about it and he told me to not even bother fixing it because the sender design is just shit. Apparently it's some kind of moisture probe, and even when functioning properly a little sloshing will keep it wet enough for the light to not come on. I just track mileage now.

My 2012 696 stopped lighting up at 1 gallon left and is doing it at 1/2 gallon. I just fill up around the 100 mile mark, it's just easier that way. That's two round trips to the office.
 
Yea Desmo, it didn't make much sense to me either. Like jrswanson said, I just started filling up after about 100 - 120 miles.

Except when I'd been spending time tuning the thing and burned half a gallon of gas without knowing it...annnddd I'm waking to the gas station again...
 
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