Engine Number Verification (NEED HELP TO SAVE MY BIKE FROM GETTING CRUSHED!!)

BLVCK BELLY

BLVCK BELLY

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Hello All,

Please Help me save my engine from getting crushed :-[

Can someone please confirm that the CB160 engine numbers follow the format B160E-1000001 as well as B160E-9000001.

And if you have a 160 following B160E-1000001 can you please take a picture of your engine number and Bike and send it to me.

The California HWY Patrol is letting me gather information that my engine is legal but they think it is a bogus number Since it follows the format B160E-100001.

I am in the process in getting my title and everything has gone smoothly until now.

So if anyone has any information that backs that the engine number format B160E-1000001 is genuine with US models or International Models Please share links, info, etc.. with me. I would greatly appreciate it!!!


I came across this on a forum: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62148.0

The very last post is about a guy who has a bike with the same engine number format that has been registered in CA since 1965! if any of you are this person or know this person. please please please send me in there direction

I am so worried about this and again I Greatly appreciate all help that is given :)

Thank you all in advance!
 
Help me understand the whole 'crushing' thing. So you win a race bike (AWESOME looking bike - congrats on the win) 5 years ago and are trying now to get a title for it and want to make it road-legal? Is that what you're doing? How or why would it get destroyed by the CHP?
 
That is the correct number pattern for the engine, should be 7 digits after the "B160" (E) for engine sequence. The frame should have the same format with I believe an "L" in lieu of "E". I'd have to recheck when I get home.
 
Tim said:
Help me understand the whole 'crushing' thing. So you win a race bike (AWESOME looking bike - congrats on the win) 5 years ago and are trying now to get a title for it and want to make it road-legal? Is that what you're doing? How or why would it get destroyed by the CHP?
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I purchased the bike for the person who won the bike.
Now am street legalizing the bike and need to acquire the title for registrations purposes.
To acquire the title the bike needs to be checked by the CHP to verify it has no been stolen.

The CHP Officer that examined my bike said that because my engine number starts with B160E-1xxxxxx instead on B160E-9xxxxxx
I have a bogus engine number that has been "tampered with".

Now in the CHP officers defense he let me leave so he could research the situation more and told me i should do the same and print out everything i find that could prove him wrong.

Today i spoke to him on the phone trying to resolve the situation. He told me he is going to contact a guy who has a shop full of vintage hondas and ask him the question about the engine number.

I dont feel very comfortable with the fate of my bike in someones hands over an opinion so i need COLD HARD FACTS that B160E-1xxxxxx is a legit honda engine number

So this is the beginning of my attempt to collect data to prove him wrong!!
 
clem said:
That is the correct number pattern for the engine, should be 7 digits after the "B160" (E) for engine sequence. The frame should have the same format with I believe an "L" in lieu of "E". I'd have to recheck when I get home.
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the officers argument is the "1" after B160E- (1)xxxxxx

He is saying all his refrence material show it should be a "9" after B160E-(9)xxxxxx

i find this to be incorrect and have seen other 160's with the 1 instead of the 9 but am looking for documentation and photos to show him
 
Tim said:
Help me understand the whole 'crushing' thing. So you win a race bike (AWESOME looking bike - congrats on the win) 5 years ago and are trying now to get a title for it and want to make it road-legal? Is that what you're doing? How or why would it get destroyed by the CHP?
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The "Crushing" process comes in if a vehicle or engine has been stolen. They impound it then crush it
 
Well they'd have to prove it was stolen before they could seize it and impound it. Not having a 'proper' or recognized serial number isn't proof of a theft.

Honestly I don't think I could live in California if it's this draconian to get shit done. Don't they have anything better to do with their time? Do they check serial numbers on the engines of cars?
 
Tim said:
Well they'd have to prove it was stolen before they could seize it and impound it. Not having a 'proper' or recognized serial number isn't proof of a theft.

Honestly I don't think I could live in California if it's this draconian to get shit done. Don't they have anything better to do with their time? Do they check serial numbers on the engines of cars?
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AMEN!
 
Have you posted this at hondatwins.net? I mean, if anyone has one... :)
 
So you're saying the his CB has a CL motor in it? That makes sense as they're identical (save the exhaust) and way back when it was often cheaper to just buy a motor from the wrecker than fix one you've blown up.

If I were you I'd tell the cop this and explain to them that engine and frame numbers rarely matchnon these old bikes.
 
cqyqte said:
I did a quick search on the number sequence B160E-1xxxxxx and found that the CB160 actually run with numbers sequence of this B160E-9xxxxxx on the engine.

Found it on this site http://honda-125-sl-xl-cbs.actifforum.com/t256-correspondances-des-numeros-de-cadre-japon-et-europe

Only the Touring or Scrambler models are in the A160E-1xxxxxxx and L160E-1xxxxxxx series but who know the Japs do crazy stuff sometimes. Sorry :(
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We have all done the same search but I have been sent photos of forum members engines that follow B160E-1xxxxxx. not to mention the obvious but so does mine

The officer is not worried about the frame matching the engine.

The link below shows a bike that is registered in CA with a clean title and an engine number following B160E-1xxxxxx

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB160-YB-/170980560440?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item27cf3c4e38#v4-39

I am simply looking for some kind of document to support this or explain the hiccup in the engine serials.


So with that being said. The sequence B160E-9xxxxxx is deff not the only one that has been manufactured. here is another link of CB160 literature stating that the Vins start at CB160-1000001 which would have and engine number of B160E-1000001

http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0160/sport160.htm#literature


This is another example with photos sent to me from hondatwins.net forum member 66sprint http://www.hondatwins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=20983
 
We're missing the point here, what needs to be said is that the Cop should have far more important things to do with his time, "LIKE FIND SOME REAL LIVE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT THE WORLD FROM BAD GUYS" instead of wasting taxpayers' time checking out frame and engine numbers on a vintage motorcycle!!! ::)
 
cqyqte said:
We're missing the point here, what needs to be said is that the Cop should have far more important things to do with his time, "LIKE FIND SOME REAL LIVE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT THE WORLD FROM BAD GUYS" instead of wasting taxpayers' time checking out frame and engine numbers on a vintage motorcycle!!! ::)
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precisely!!!
 
http://www.groupwracing.com/

Bateman , Omahoney and the rest are a bit reclusive , tend not to respond to anything less than free engine parts or beer and have one of the largest bodies of knowledge encompassing the CB160 on this or any other planet in the universe . I believe Mikes email is at the end of "building a 160 for racing" Tim's email is somewhere on the site and their membership is mentioned wherever 160's are . Give them a shot .

~kop
 
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