god darn bolts!

brewtown16

what, me worry?
does anyone have a good way of taking off phillips head bolts on the clutch cover? these things wont budge...

any cheap tools or ideas?
 
You don't want electric - you want a hand held $10 tool you hit with a hammer. They come with an assortment of bits which all fit in a 1/2" drive chuck on the driver.
 
Tim said:
You don't want electric - you want a hand held $10 tool you hit with a hammer. They come with an assortment of bits which all fit in a 1/2" drive chuck on the driver.

ill stop by the harbor freight store tomorrow

thanks guys. is this how you all get bolts off your engine covers?
 
i used it on basically every engine cover bolt. didnt even try to see if they would come loose. just started banging away.
 
and if you strip it, take the dremal out and turn it into a flat head. they try again with the impact. thats what i did. worked like a charm
 
+1 on all this.

If you want to save yourself some future grief replace all the JIS (they're not phillips, slightly different Japanese fasteners that really like to strip out if you use a regular phillips head screwdriver on them. Look for the little dot cast into the screw head near one of the corners, that's how to tell them apart). Every screw I have to use an impact driver to take out gets replaced with a hardened allen head screw from my local Ace Hardware. Cost on average about .75 each and guarantee I won't have stripped screw heads to worry about down the road.

Just my $.02
 
Just make sure it's set to loosen, not tighten the bolts. It works both ways. Test hit it into a block of wood and keep your eye on the bit - make sure it turns the right way.
 
You can sometimes uses vice grips all the it will ruin the phillips head bolt. When I dissasembled my KZ400 engine I ended up using a screw extractor tool multiple times and it worked wonders. You can buy them at any hardware store and they are an invaluable tool.
 
slushie07 said:
You can sometimes uses vice grips all the it will ruin the phillips head bolt. When I dissasembled my KZ400 engine I ended up using a screw extractor tool multiple times and it worked wonders. You can buy them at any hardware store and they are an invaluable tool.


I joined the ranks of master extractor last month.....inherited woes of PO......had to extract 8 bolt total from various locations on the engine.
 
I usually put a little turning pressure when I use my impact driver. Helps me feel if it is turning or not and I feel it seats the bit better for the impact. Just my .02 worth.
 
allrighty boys, stopped by after work, and picked up a hand inpact for 12 bucks with 5 diffrent bits :D

now the bad part.... i dont know what to do from here.... ive looked up on the clymers manual on this, and also the Honda shop manual PDF that Noel posted up... no such luck. ill threadjack my own thread here. ill start from the top. so what happend is that i over ajusted my clutch cable too tight and when at a light i heard a "pop" then the clutch was stuck open. also, when everything was together the cable wouldnt move at all... forward or back. so.... tore off the clutch cover with my new handy impact, and got down to business. now, the clutch acutator arm is moving up and down, and twisting out like it should. picture 1.
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and also-
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now, i went straight to the clutch lifter arm (pictured) and i was trying to push it in? and no dice.... on the other hand i could pull it out... not sure if thats supposed to happen... :-\
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so, long story short i dont know where to go from here.
any ideas?
 
there's a larger (about the size of a quarter) screw on the top of the case/cover that adjusts the amount of movement when you squeeze the cable. not sure if that's your issue or not. there should also be a small-ish ball bearing that pushes the rod - don't lose it.
 
philos1 said:
there's a larger (about the size of a quarter) screw on the top of the case/cover that adjusts the amount of movement when you squeeze the cable. not sure if that's your issue or not. there should also be a small-ish ball bearing that pushes the rod - don't lose it.

its worth a try i guess. there was a bolt on the outside of the cover with a tappet thread on the inside... i take it thats the adjuster.... what about the clutch lifter rod? how should that be moving?
 
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