Going Electronic Ign.. cb350...Q's

Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

You'd be better off getting one of these kits.

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http://www.accel-motorcycle.com/ProductDetails.aspx?modelNumber=140403KS&productID=7423&majID=625&minID=6257&selection=1&minselection=5
 
Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

RPD7.62 said:
Here was the one i was looking at...It doesnt say anything about points capatable, and IDK if the CB is a CDI ignition etc.

Will this work??

http://www.jcwhitney.com/super-coil-kit-for-universal-applications/p2020932.jcwx?skuId=547245&TID=8014524FT4&zmam=15972153&zmas=21&zmac=141&zmap=461165

Don't think so, CB350 does not use CDI ignition, there's no "black box". CrazyPJ can explain this better than me. The kit I posted is for a non CDI ignition and I know of one bike on DTT that used it.
 
Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

ou need a coil with a primary resistance of 5 ohms for points on the street and 3 ohms for the race track. Do not use 0.7 ohm CDI coils on a points bike and don't use a 3 ohm coil on the street.

Been too many years since I owned a CB350 but with a 180 degree crank, don't they have two single lead coils? If so a double ended coil ain't going to work unless it fires every revolution.
 
Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

i know many people with 3ohm coils on the street on a cb350.

dyna is the best, but expensive. VW type 12v coils (by bosch) (blue ones) are supposed to be amazing also, but tricky to find, but when you find them they are cheap.

personally i have a Bore-Tech electronic ignition with 3ohm coils. not hooked up yet but with those plus my ricks stator, i should have a super fat spark.
 
Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

Let me repeat that. 3 ohm coils should not normally be used on a street bike with points. I'm quite sure they can be used, but so can a lot of things. That doesn't mean they are the best option.

5 ohm coils are better for the street unless the ride is short and the revs are high.

Agree 100% that an electronic ignition with matching coils is far better than points and a stock coil for many reasons. I haven't tried it on a CB350, but you could probably adapt a DYNA S for a Honda Goldwing GL1000 quite easily.
 
Re: ACCEL Super Stock Coils...??

Well hell,

IF i was to go with an electronic setup...which im seriously thinking about now, how many options are there? I only see Bore Tech...

For the cb350..

And it has a rev limiter which i dont need, and i feel as though I'de be paying for that, and i dont wanna... Also, I'de have to get coils to im sure, If not the Dyna 3ohm? then what?

School me on electronic ignitions for the cb350t please!
 
Where to begin? Electronic ignitions come in many shapes and sizes using different technologies. Some use a light trigger and others use a magnet or steel reluctor passing a pickup/sensor.

The principle is the same in all systems in that a trigger sends a signal which end up as a spark from the coils. Some use a 12v battery and others are self generating like an old school magneto (race only). They are most accurate if triggered from the crank, but on most old bikes, that isn't an easy option for a street bike, so they typically mount on the cam instead replacing the points and points cam.

The two major tasks in adapting one are modifying the rotor to replace the points cam and modifying a backing plate to mount the pickups. It's all fairly simple once you are familiar with points and ignitions in general.

CB350 Specific
Newtronics make , or used to offer a light based unit for the CB. They are based in the UK.

Electrexworld in the UK/ HPI.be out of Belgium, offer a race only self generating CDI system which is very popular in Europe

Rex Caunt used to offer a PVL based self generating race ignition system

Boretech in OH offer a version which simply replaces the whole points assembly and uses the rest of the normal OEM electrical system.


NON CB350 Specific but can be adapted.

DYNA: the DYNA S for a GL1000 is easy to adapt to fit any Honda twin with OHC. You could also take any 4 cylinder system and remove the triggers from the backing plate and fit them to a slightly modified CB points plate.

Pertronix: Beloved by CB160 racers and hated by almost everyone else, it's a car based pickup which I have zero experience with.

Ignitech: Modern programmable system that requires some fabrication skills to work out a mounting system. Great system but probably not for the uninitiated.


In the US, the easiest is probably BoreTech. Bill Moeller who is/runs BT is a straight shooter and seems to know what he's doing and has been around for a while. I have not used one of his, but they have a good reputation.

The real advantage of an electronic system is the lack of things to wear out or go out of adjustment. Having a stronger spark is the icing on the cake. Points work fine. I raced for years with a modified points system and that was OK but I would not repeat that now that there are so many options. But for the street, a clean set of well adjusted points works fine.

When cash is tight and we're talking street not track, I'd recommend new points and condenser if they are needed plus a coil off ebay if that's needed, but I'd start by cleaning every contact and ground in the electrical system first starting with the kill switch and the main switch.
 
I've seen quite a few people mention that the GL1000 Dyna S can be adapted to CB350 twin, and how easy it is, but so far I haven't come across anyone documenting the process. Fab and modification is no problem, I'd just like to see what is involved so I can better decide between this and the boretech setup. My apologies if I've overlooked it on this forum.

Thanks!

Mike
 
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