Hi from SEA + what's my Frankenstein bike?

epidemiks

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So I've been living in Cambodia for a couple of years, and have owned a little Honda 125 for the past 12 months and it's provided much pleasure with some great southern coast rides, mild countryside offroad action, and also a few journeys up along the Mekong, but I've decided to pull it off the road for a month or two and show it some love and possibly give a touch of the cafe racer/brat style without sacrificing the pillion (the missus would kill me).

While investigating what's possible, available, and affordable here in Phnom Penh (there's no one in town who can do powder coating, for instance), I've discovered the bike is pretty much a Frankenstein monster of indeterminate origin. Or just a Chinese copy of a Honda.
Cambodia is pretty much a 'bang things together until they work' kind of place, and the mechanic I bought it from is no different, so there were a few parts which definitely weren't original - the stator cover was salvaged from a Sangyang/Sym a few days before I took possession of it.

It was sold as a CG125, and the tax papers say the same, but I can find no CG that matches. From trawling bikepics.com and lots of other resources, the closest match I can find is a 78 CB125. Some identifying features that make me think it's a 78 CB:
  • mechanical actuated front disc
  • frame shape
  • front fender shape and lower rear tether
  • side cover shape
  • the speedo/tacho and cluster match CB's of the same year (though I've only found photographic match on a CB550 cluster)

But, then there's the frame number.. not Honda number from what I can tell. There's no VIN plate, but I gather that was normal for 70's bikes..
Frame: MC07-1102452
Engine: EM-016530

So, can anyone give any advice as to what exactly I'm riding? I'm not overly concerned if it's not a genuine Honda.. The tax papers and reg card says it is, so for a Cambodian that's as good as the real thing!

It rides beautifully, nimble but solid, turns lots of Khmer heads as "vintage" bikes are unusual (Cambodia is 1990's + SuperCub/Daelim scooter territory), makes 100km/h on the highways (not that there's many highways capable of sustained throttling here), and tows both myself and the missus (both foreigners) around town without complaint.
And, yeah, hi all.
 

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That is most definitely not a Honda, and certainly not a '78. Best guess is a Chinese or Taiwanese knock off. If it were Honda the serial numbers would start with cb125 I believe, and there would be a VIN plate riveted to the neck.
 
VonYinzer said:
That is most definitely not a Honda, and certainly not a '78. Best guess is a Chinese or Taiwanese knock off. If it were Honda the serial numbers would start with cb125 I believe, and there would be a VIN plate riveted to the neck.

Thanks for the comment. I'm probably more comfortable with it not being genuine, as that means I'm not hacking to pieces a genuinely rare bike. I've had numerous offers to buy at above what I paid, and it's currently looking considerably rougher now than those photos above taken when I purchased it.

There's a lot of Sangyangs 125 and 150s pulling tuk tuks and remorks here that have a very similar look, but I've found none with the cable disc and "Honda wings" tank badge.

Time to start pulling it apart!
 
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