Honda CL450 Gear Shift Spindle fucked up!

RockenRolla

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Hey guys new round these parts 8). Ive got a 71 CL450 that i have been restoring slowly but surely and recently I came across this lovely gem of a problem. I was wondering what the best plan of action is here, whether to try and get it out and replace it or a less invasive procedure... Thanks for the help! ;D
 

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You can get that out with out cracking the case, but will require removing the rightside cover, clutch and oil pump. They come up on ebay every once and awhile.
 
You need the tool to remove the oil filter, too. either buy one or make one out of a socket.
 
lingo said:
You need the tool to remove the oil filter, too. either buy one or make one out of a socket.

Instructions on making such a tool are here: http://www.thefang.co.uk/cb500tips.htm#followers
 
Fair enough. It would been heaps easier to buy a polished aluminum seat for my bike, but it wouldn't have matched the lines of my tank and I am a cheap ass. So I bought some new tools and I am making one. Then I am going to make fenders. Being hard headed and cheap is a horrible combination.
 
RockenRolla said:
Hey guys new round these parts 8). Ive got a 71 CL450 that i have been restoring slowly but surely and recently I came across this lovely gem of a problem. I was wondering what the best plan of action is here, whether to try and get it out and replace it or a less invasive procedure... Thanks for the help! ;D

When you search for a replacement you may want to ask about the condition of the groove for the circlip that is just left of the leftside case seal. If that groove is worn it may cause you some issues with the shift ratchet and it's postion. But that's not a game stopper, if the groove is worn you can make a holder ring that will help the circlip stay in it's place.

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You should really think about making those and selling them. It wouldn't make you rich but you would really have some grateful customers
 
Hey thanks for all the help i just put the order through, so ill be getting it soon hopefully. As for the tool I need to get that oil filter off I guess ill just try and make one of my own. ::)
 
Alright, so I finally got the little socket to take off that nut, but now I cant figure out how in the fuck to "Straighten- the tongue of the spring washer
pawls" to remove the lock nut. (Per honda manual) :mad:
 
Use a big, long screwdriver and a hammer to knock the pawls down.
 
Sorry If I seem incompetent here but I have no idea what Im looking at right now.
 

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The pawls are the little fingers on the piece of sheet metal behind the oil filter nut. They appear to have already been knocked down - when they're raised, they keep the oil filter nut from loosening itself.

Now - either you have begun mangling the oil filter nut or somebody beat you to it. :) Do you have the tool to remove that nut? If not, there is a link to my build thread below; about halfway through is a link to 'thefang' or somesuch, where there's a diagram showing how to make one out of a 22mm socket.
 
yes I have the socket to take it out, however I wasnt sure what to do with the spring washer. I can see that some of the fingers are flat already so I'm assuming just hammer the rest down?
 
That's pretty much it. You want to make sure they're knocked down so that they don't interfere with the nut turning. Were it me, I would look for a replacement for that nut while you're on your next spending spree. I'd send you one but I already sent my spare to somebody here a while ago :)
 
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