Ya I like the comment about changes that are functional are important.surffly said:There are guys that make money building vintage bikes. But the people building drag queens for hipsters are not the ones making any money anymore. The masses are finally starting to move onto another bandwagon to jump on.
The money is in bikes with real substance, not pipeburn junk.
There are people out there to pay good money for sorted and have improved function, again....NOT some fashion item.
deviant said:Haha. True, sort of. But the whole "hot rod" thing began in the 30s.
No way, are you serious? Saying when something started and when something became popular is not saying the same thing.coyote13 said:Totally OT, but you know WWII ended in '45 right?
I don't think we really disagree at all. You are right that different people like different things. And people will pay money for someone else to make what is in their head into reality. So sure shops have an hourly rate to install a seat or do custom paint or any one of a number of other "touches" so that the person riding can have something that is different, even if ever so slightly so. I don't take issue with that at all.cqyqte said:Some good points raised in your preaching, Bonita Applebaum was a piece of art. He used furniture fasteners used in Ikea pieces in his triple trees, completely dangerous, but fit the flow of the art form. The uneducated drooled all over his build thread, I never heard if he ever sold his canvas.
I do take exception to your extreme "black or white" view of customs. People (buyers) have different tastes and there is one thing you can't argue and that is their taste. In the many years I have had this hobby I have never created a trailer queen or piece of art. Sure some of the bikes I have made have had their performance characteristics altered in a way that you disapprove of but my customers have repeatedly remarked how much they enjoyed riding their custom. The point I wanted to make in a previous post was that given the right promotion and audience you can sell either a "piece of art", a "trendy piece of crap", a "super performer", or a "concourse restoration" for major dollars. The key is finding that someone.
I don't want to start a pissing match, because I agree with allot of what you have said Surffly. It's just whatever I ride I want it to be different.
Just some of those I have created and sold, they all are riders and I don't just mean to the coffee shop and back.
ncologerojr said:I think Mule sells his trackers for around $25k, and after they seem to be well worth it.
Just my opinion.
crazypj said:He is an engineer (with a degree) and I think worked on aircraft?
Knows quite a lot about safety and what can be done to strengthen and lighten the XS650 frame he was originally building I liked a lot of the features but didn't like the style around steering head
crazypj said:He is an engineer (with a degree) and I think worked on aircraft?
Knows quite a lot about safety and what can be done to strengthen and lighten the XS650 frame he was originally building I liked a lot of the features but didn't like the style around steering head
surffly said:I'm an engineer with a degree and worked on aircraft, now robots.
I got a let up?...lol
coyote13 said:Totally OT, but you know WWII ended in '45 right?
Tune-A-Fish said:The guys who are doing this for a living are always loosing sleep over the variables and the buyers are typically buying a Rolex when they don't even know how to tell time.
ApriliaBill said:It'll be interesting to watch this one. I really like this bike. He's starting at just over what a stock one would run, but the reserve will be the interesting part. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321654218117?forcerRptr=true&item=321654218117&viewitem