It's not about being American made, it's about standards and practice. I had a whole speech written, but I'll refrain. Miller is one of the first ISO 9001:2000 manufacturers. I've got a Miller stick welder that has been passed down from my grandfather to my father to me. That thing is a beast. I challenge that Eastwood or any cheap Chinese Harbor Freight welder to match that. For 15% more, you get a much better product, hobby welder or not. A good one will last for generations no matter how much you use it. And if you decide one day to put it on CL, you'll get more than $50.RedBullEnema said:For Lift Tig/STICK you can go http://www.amazon.com/EVERLAST-PowerARC-140amp-Welder-Voltage/dp/B0081BF4JC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376645&sr=8-1&keywords=everlast+powerarc+140
Or for a MIG you can go: http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Welder-110VAC-Output-Welding/dp/B003O49BG8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376534&sr=8-1&keywords=eastwood+mig+135
Im sure I'll get jumped on by the Made In America purists, but for a hobby welder these units will be great. They have excellent reviews from a very reputable source: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/chinese-tig-welder-review-video.html. People love to get into arguments about chinese vs. american made, duty cycle, etc. but in the end its just a hobby welder, not like you're going to be doing pro quality production work with it.
deviant said:It's not about being American made, it's about standards and practice. I had a whole speech written, but I'll refrain.
First off, the poster pointed to an Eastwood MIG along with his American made product comments, which has a regular price just under $400. A Hobart Handler 140, which is made by Miller, I've seen for under $450. There is no Hobart DC scratch welder made that I know of. And yes, the Miller versions are more than 15% costlier. For your price, you can get an Everlast.cosworth said:Show me a Miller dc scratch start that is only %15 more than this and I'd buy it.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Promotion-for-High-Quality-IGBT-DC-Inverter-Tig-welder-TIG-200-TIG-MMA-2-in-1/1532322218.html
cosworth said:This welder will appear in my "next purchase" thread soon for me.
xb33bsa said:i still don't like the cobra it is hideously awkward to use
a standard mid to small size torch is worlds better
it doesn't put out any better flame than a clean standard tip.period.factSONIC. said:It does look awkward, but it puts out such a nice tight flame for welding.
xb33bsa said:it doesn't put out any better flame than a clean standard tip.period.fact
we tried one, we very stubbornly wanted it to work
we put that pos back on the shelf in its box to die
tig is wonderfulSONIC. said:To each their own
I couldn't live without my tig. I use it every day.
Let me see you weld over your head or with one hand with a TIG.SONIC. said:Agreed.
...it will do everything a mig will do, only better and prettier.
deviant said:Let me see you weld over your head or with one hand with a TIG.
And for someone learning to weld, MIG is as easy as it gets.
I learned just like you. I also grew up working on farms and never used anything but a torch or an occasional stick until much later in life. Lazy or not, MIG is by far the easiest to learn, and a monkey can make a good weld with one.xb33bsa said:you learn to weld by welding with an acetelyne torch, that is step one
mig comes later
that is the way it was done in SCHOOL when i was a kid, when they taught welding in SCHOOL and it is the right way
learning to weld first with a mig is for lazy fucks and cheats the learner of very important skills