I need a welding machine

chris7981

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any recommendations on a good welding machine for welding in battery boxes and cafe loops? cheaper the better but something that can adequately do the job.
 
I've seen Hobart Handler 140's for as little as $400. They're made by Miller and a helluva machine.
 
For Lift Tig/STICK you can go http://www.amazon.com/EVERLAST-PowerARC-140amp-Welder-Voltage/dp/B0081BF4JC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376645&sr=8-1&keywords=everlast+powerarc+140

Or for a MIG you can go: http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Welder-110VAC-Output-Welding/dp/B003O49BG8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376534&sr=8-1&keywords=eastwood+mig+135

Im sure I'll get jumped on by the Made In America purists, but for a hobby welder these units will be great. They have excellent reviews from a very reputable source: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/chinese-tig-welder-review-video.html. People love to get into arguments about chinese vs. american made, duty cycle, etc. but in the end its just a hobby welder, not like you're going to be doing pro quality production work with it.

For a good deal on a gas cylinder shipped full of gas, check out http://store.cyberweld.com/migaccessories1.html

Obviously you can also check your local Craigslist for used machines and/or cylinders and sometimes your local welding supply may sell used/refurbished machines.
 
RedBullEnema said:
For Lift Tig/STICK you can go http://www.amazon.com/EVERLAST-PowerARC-140amp-Welder-Voltage/dp/B0081BF4JC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376645&sr=8-1&keywords=everlast+powerarc+140

Or for a MIG you can go: http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Welder-110VAC-Output-Welding/dp/B003O49BG8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398376534&sr=8-1&keywords=eastwood+mig+135

Im sure I'll get jumped on by the Made In America purists, but for a hobby welder these units will be great. They have excellent reviews from a very reputable source: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/chinese-tig-welder-review-video.html. People love to get into arguments about chinese vs. american made, duty cycle, etc. but in the end its just a hobby welder, not like you're going to be doing pro quality production work with it.
It's not about being American made, it's about standards and practice. I had a whole speech written, but I'll refrain. Miller is one of the first ISO 9001:2000 manufacturers. I've got a Miller stick welder that has been passed down from my grandfather to my father to me. That thing is a beast. I challenge that Eastwood or any cheap Chinese Harbor Freight welder to match that. For 15% more, you get a much better product, hobby welder or not. A good one will last for generations no matter how much you use it. And if you decide one day to put it on CL, you'll get more than $50.
 
deviant said:
It's not about being American made, it's about standards and practice. I had a whole speech written, but I'll refrain.

Show me a Miller dc scratch start that is only %15 more than this and I'd buy it.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Promotion-for-High-Quality-IGBT-DC-Inverter-Tig-welder-TIG-200-TIG-MMA-2-in-1/1532322218.html

This welder will appear in my "next purchase" thread soon for me.
 
cosworth said:
Show me a Miller dc scratch start that is only %15 more than this and I'd buy it.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Promotion-for-High-Quality-IGBT-DC-Inverter-Tig-welder-TIG-200-TIG-MMA-2-in-1/1532322218.html
First off, the poster pointed to an Eastwood MIG along with his American made product comments, which has a regular price just under $400. A Hobart Handler 140, which is made by Miller, I've seen for under $450. There is no Hobart DC scratch welder made that I know of. And yes, the Miller versions are more than 15% costlier. For your price, you can get an Everlast.

cosworth said:
This welder will appear in my "next purchase" thread soon for me.

Good for you. I'm sure we'll see that several times over the next few years.
 
get an oxy acetylene outfit
it is more versatile than any electric outfit
cut, weld, braze,silver solder , heat,form, forge
it is the first piece you should own and really all you need
that is if you are smart enough to learn how to use it
 
you could also pic up a used gas welding outfit for near that and be WAY better off
buying an electric welder before a torch is doing it wrong
 
For what it's worth I have the Eastwood Tig 200 AC/DC.
I also have a hobart handler 140 and a lincoln 140.
I never for any reason touch the MIG's. There's just no point when you have a tig.
If you can swing it go ahead and get the tig and skip the mig.

A torch is a great investment as well, see TexasStar's thread on the cobra 2000 torch he and Zeke bought and are learning to use.
 
i still don't like the cobra :eek: it is hideously awkward to use
a standard mid to small size torch is worlds better
 
xb33bsa said:
i still don't like the cobra :eek: it is hideously awkward to use
a standard mid to small size torch is worlds better

It does look awkward, but it puts out such a nice tight flame for welding.
 
SONIC. said:
It does look awkward, but it puts out such a nice tight flame for welding.
it doesn't put out any better flame than a clean standard tip.period.fact
we tried one, we very stubbornly wanted it to work
we put that pos back on the shelf in its box to die ;)
 
xb33bsa said:
it doesn't put out any better flame than a clean standard tip.period.fact
we tried one, we very stubbornly wanted it to work
we put that pos back on the shelf in its box to die ;)

To each their own :D

I couldn't live without my tig. I use it every day.
 
Agreed.
I'm just trying to make the point that if I had it to do over again I would never bother with the MIG.
Get a cheap inverter DC tig, it will do everything a mig will do, only better and prettier.
 
yep
i am just sayin' torch is the most handy if a guy is actually going to do a lot more than weld a hoop on
you gotta have heat for fabricating so a torch is the first logical choice
you need a torch to do a lot of tig work anyway for preheating and post heating specially for preheating large alloy pieces
 
SONIC. said:
Agreed.
...it will do everything a mig will do, only better and prettier.
Let me see you weld over your head or with one hand with a TIG.

And for someone learning to weld, MIG is as easy as it gets.
 
deviant said:
Let me see you weld over your head or with one hand with a TIG.

And for someone learning to weld, MIG is as easy as it gets.

you learn to weld by welding with an acetelyne torch, that is step one
mig comes later
that is the way it was done in SCHOOL when i was a kid, when they taught welding in SCHOOL and it is the right way
learning to weld first with a mig is for lazy fucks and cheats the learner of very important skills
 
xb33bsa said:
you learn to weld by welding with an acetelyne torch, that is step one
mig comes later
that is the way it was done in SCHOOL when i was a kid, when they taught welding in SCHOOL and it is the right way
learning to weld first with a mig is for lazy fucks and cheats the learner of very important skills
I learned just like you. I also grew up working on farms and never used anything but a torch or an occasional stick until much later in life. Lazy or not, MIG is by far the easiest to learn, and a monkey can make a good weld with one.
 
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