If you want it done ... you have to do it yourself

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OldSchoolKaw86

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So after being dicked around by the dude that was supposed to paint my 900 kawi, i finally got ahold of him. I found out after having my stuff for 3 months he hasn't even done a thing on them. He said if i wanted, he could have them ready in like 2 months, screw that!!!! So i will be going sometime this week and picking up everything and i will spray the bike myself. Im going to do the frame, swing arm, and little frame bits in gloss black, and i will do the bod work in flat black. Im going to rattle can it because my budget is pretty small. I have a question though, should i clear coat the flat black? I only ask because this is the first time i will be shooting flat black paint. Other than that everything will be clean and shined for the most part.
 
I would recommend a Satin black. It will last way longer. Wont show as many finger prints. And will still provide the contrast I think you are going for. But, to answer your question. Yes, when ever possible use clear.

Lou
 
Okay. Thanks for the quick response guy's. Ill post some more pics of it when i start to re assemble everything. Its getting nice out and i want to ride.
 
I rattle caned some wheels with flat black paint, and put clear over them. I think it was just normal clear, not a flat clear. They still looked "flat." Hell, I could get pictures if you want. It was just walmart paint. The wheels weren't that great since they needed to be sand blasted (chrome peeling) but I did the same thing on some window louvers and those looked great and the paint held up well. Good luck, sucks to hear about this other guys slow work.


EDIT: I just looked out in the garage and it was Rustoleum "Painter's touch." I remember now I didn't get it at walmart because they wouldn't sell it to me (wasn't 18) so I just bought some at the hardware store. It was gloss clear, but in the end it still looked flat. I can get a pic if you want.
 
Kind of off topic but a little on. I plan on doing all of the painting myself and have done some in the past, two beetles and a two tone microbus that didn't turn out too bad but to get back to the question. I plan on using some kind of paint out of a sprayer like ppg or whatever not out of a spray can but was wondering how the self-etching primers work under that "good" paint. Do they work fine or will I be ruining an otherwise nice paint job by not putting a good foundation on? Talked to a guy and he recomended some primer made by sem anyone heard of it? The only raeson I am thinking about the canned primer is the ease of it, no clean up, and I can use it whenever like if a just wanted to spray a couple things.
 
cdiver666 said:
I rattle caned some wheels with flat black paint, and put clear over them. I think it was just normal clear, not a flat clear. They still looked "flat." Hell, I could get pictures if you want. It was just walmart paint. The wheels weren't that great since they needed to be sand blasted (chrome peeling) but I did the same thing on some window louvers and those looked great and the paint held up well. Good luck, sucks to hear about this other guys slow work.


EDIT: I just looked out in the garage and it was Rustoleum "Painter's touch." I remember now I didn't get it at walmart because they wouldn't sell it to me (wasn't 18) so I just bought some at the hardware store. It was gloss clear, but in the end it still looked flat. I can get a pic if you want.
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Yeah a pic would be great. Thanks again :)
 
While you guys are on the topic of painting, I have a question as well. I see alot of people painting there wheels, do you run the risk of chipping the paint when you have new tires put on. I'm trying to figure out if I should paint mine or have them powder coated. I would like to save a buck, but I don't want to spend time painting and have them messed up. Is there a good way to paint them to avoid this problem, if there is one?
 
Here is a picture of the wheel:

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Sorry for the bad lighting. I got rid of them a long time ago. The paint did scratch pretty easily on those. Put, the prep work was nearly non-existant.
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(Sorry, best pic I could find of the louvers, I don't have many after I painted them)
On the other hand the paint on the louvers lasted a while. But they were painted underneath, I just sanded the original paint, sprayed the flat black, and then sprayed the clear. It was a gloss clear, I still have half a can left and I checked. The color name was "crystal clear" (Rustoleum) and it didn't affect the color that much. I got rid of that car as well so no more pics of that either. But I drove the car with those louvers on in the winter, and scraping the snow off of them didn't damage it. But on the wheels the paint would scratch off. That might be attributed to the fact that I sprayed them when it was freezing outside.


I can get a picture of the can too if you want louie, haha. Don't have any of the flat black I used left though, but it was the same brand, same selection of "painter's touch."
 
I found a pic thats not in direct sunlight that might help more,
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You could stack shit on them and they wouldn't scratch. Not nearly as durable as normal paint, but it might last a while.
 
mspringer said:
While you guys are on the topic of painting, I have a question as well. I see alot of people painting there wheels, do you run the risk of chipping the paint when you have new tires put on. I'm trying to figure out if I should paint mine or have them powder coated. I would like to save a buck, but I don't want to spend time painting and have them messed up. Is there a good way to paint them to avoid this problem, if there is one?
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First thing to remember with powder is that if it does get chipped or scratched is that it cant be touched up. Needs to be stripped down and recoated.
If you prep the wheels correctly, and use a high grade spraypaint (black appliance enamel is great) and a clear coat, it can be extremely durable.
And as an added bonus, if it gets damaged, you just need to scuff the area, and touch it up.
 
Good point Von. If you tried to spray regular paint over scratched powder coat would it not adhere?

I have used enamel spray paint as well and that was very durable. I was just at the store and saw that Rustoleum has flat black available in their enamel paint. That's probably you're best option. The enamel I used was silver, but it went on thick, and dried hard.
 
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