When someone sells you something and you both agree on the price time and place; then the guy call you back later (just before your meeting in this case) and says he's got a buyer that is willing to pay more and he's going to hold it for the new buyer...do you tell the guy off or just let it slide?
missed opportunities
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As frustrating as it is, there is no sence in telling him off. If he doesn't have the integrity to keep his word, he's a wothless POS and the tounge lashing will do nothing but reinforce the negative thoughts in your head. People like that are worthless and what you are buying probably isn't as represented.
OR, pop them in the mouth.
OR, pop them in the mouth.
Ok I'm too old for this and I feel like a hurt whiny sissy.
I emailed him back and said" I understand money is money"(after all the other guy offered 75% more than me) but this guy accepted my offer first and set up times and shit..anyhoooo someone offered more..I stated..protocol dictates that you should tell me that someone offered you more and you are going to take his offer(cause you need the money) but...you should offer me first crack at it ...at that price....eg..yo dude I'm sorry I'm strapped for cash and this guy offered me a hell of a lot more for my shit...if you are willing to match I'll give it to you..if not my apologies but shit is tight....
ok I'm finished my sissy rant..over it..thanks for giving me the forum to do this!!
I emailed him back and said" I understand money is money"(after all the other guy offered 75% more than me) but this guy accepted my offer first and set up times and shit..anyhoooo someone offered more..I stated..protocol dictates that you should tell me that someone offered you more and you are going to take his offer(cause you need the money) but...you should offer me first crack at it ...at that price....eg..yo dude I'm sorry I'm strapped for cash and this guy offered me a hell of a lot more for my shit...if you are willing to match I'll give it to you..if not my apologies but shit is tight....
ok I'm finished my sissy rant..over it..thanks for giving me the forum to do this!!
Big R
Heaven is so far away.
Partydog, there was a really good article pertaining to this in Car + Driver 8 (?) years ago. The author told buyer #1 that the car was his and to come get it. Buyer #2 showed up without calling but had cash in hand - so the car went with buyer #2.
Needless to say, buyer #1 showed up a little bit later and expected a car and was NOT happy about the lack of a phone call. After a little bit of roughing up, the author (seller) vowed to never do that again.
Sorry to hear about your loss of parts!
Needless to say, buyer #1 showed up a little bit later and expected a car and was NOT happy about the lack of a phone call. After a little bit of roughing up, the author (seller) vowed to never do that again.
Sorry to hear about your loss of parts!
Thanks.. I am civilized and I'm just being a crybaby..I'm over it. Guess what..the guy emailed me back and said if the other person didn't show up in the morning to pick it up..I could have it for the inflated price instead of what we agreed on...what a turd..I hope he never sells it.. I won't buy it even if he does drop the price back to what we agreed on...even if I am desperate for it...ok whining over..I'm just cranky cause it's late.
I buy and sell a LOT of stuff on craigs. After being on both ends of this situation more then once, I am now of attitude that money talks - always. I tell anyone that calls that I will not hold it and the first person to show up with the cash has first crack at it. I also accept the same to be true on the other end as a buyer. If someone gets there first with the cash, they have first crack. I'd like to believe we are all civilized people and are true to our word, but I've been stood up LOTS AND LOTS of times by people who promised they'd come with cash. If they offer more cash then I'm asking that too is a red flag in my eyes if they want it that bad they need to make sure they're there first with the cash. I don't trust anyone that I don't personally know, and a call off of an advertisement is definately someone I don't know or trust. To quote my old sales manager "If their lips are moving, they're lying"
Word to the wise though: Don't piss off a potential customer, never know who's gonna go off and go postal these days. I always set expectations up front when dealing with these situations so there is no confusion. In this situation, the seller should not have promised it or gone back on his word... Obviously an unexperienced CL'er and hopefully he doesn't piss off the wrong person!
Word to the wise though: Don't piss off a potential customer, never know who's gonna go off and go postal these days. I always set expectations up front when dealing with these situations so there is no confusion. In this situation, the seller should not have promised it or gone back on his word... Obviously an unexperienced CL'er and hopefully he doesn't piss off the wrong person!
kbmx613
Been Around the Block
^^jeep28guy is right. My friends that are business majors were discussing this exact issue the other day, and they said many of the same things. First come, first serve even if a verbal agreement has already been made. I hate that it has to be that way, but it does.
However IMO, As a seller, It is polite to give a phonecall and let the person with the verbal agreement know that it has already been sold.
However IMO, As a seller, It is polite to give a phonecall and let the person with the verbal agreement know that it has already been sold.
boingk
Standard gearhead.
I'd like to think that my word is my bond, and bugger people shoving cash in my face. If I've promised it to somone for a price, then I must've been happy with the price they offered.
Plus, karma guys...no seriously. My GS850 was a steal and the fellow mentioned when I was arranging pickup that a few people had offered double but he was selling to me because I got in first and would pick up promptly. Thats the sort of seller I'd like to be.
Perhaps if I really did need the cash or was getting screwed on the price I'd call back and say I'd been given a better offer, but otherwise it'd go to the fellow who got in first.
Cheers - boingk
Plus, karma guys...no seriously. My GS850 was a steal and the fellow mentioned when I was arranging pickup that a few people had offered double but he was selling to me because I got in first and would pick up promptly. Thats the sort of seller I'd like to be.
Perhaps if I really did need the cash or was getting screwed on the price I'd call back and say I'd been given a better offer, but otherwise it'd go to the fellow who got in first.
Cheers - boingk
boink - I wish everyone's word were their bond.. it would solve ALL the worlds problems if it were. Sadly, some people just don't care how their actions affect others around them. It's unfortunate we can't take everyone at their word but it's the way the world is I'm afraid.
To illustrate why I treat CL transactions as I do, I'll tell my best story. This summer my buddy and I picked up a used Ranger Rover at the auto auction. He was going to use it as his daily driver, but after getting home we realized it had more problems then what we wanted to deal with. I advertised it as well as I could and represented it to the best of my ability, selling it as is and a mechanic's special. We priced it cheap - what we had in it which was wholesale - just to get rid of it. I had a buyer from Grand Forks contact me and said he wanted it, he wanted it, he wanted it. He would come first thing in the morning and would I hold it for him. This guy was going to drive 500 miles to buy the truck, so understandably, he wanted to make sure it was here for him. I agreed to hold it if he would put a $200 deposit (in my checking account at a local branch) for the truck. He deposited a check for $200 that day (late Friday) and I waited to meet him the next day. Dude finally shows up at noon, checks out the truck, decides it has too many problems (wtf??) and doesn't buy. In the mean time I've told 30 people the truck is sold pending. Now here it is Saturday afternoon, a beautiful day that I've already been half screwed out of with no sale, and a bunch of potential buyers who now are less enthused because, come on, what do you tell them thats going to get them to come look at it after they know that a guy's driving 500 miles to look at it. Most of the potential buyers are in the Twin Cities 100 miles away, so they don't want to drive down now and want to come tomorrow. Technically selling through a dealership, so no Sunday sales, so now we're in to Monday and everyones at work. It took me three more weeks to sell that damn truck because one guy backed out that I promised it to. Then to add insult to injury, he cancelled his check that we both had agreed would be non-refundable for me holding it. Never again. First come, first served. Cash talks.
Sorry about the long rant. Really pissed me off.
To illustrate why I treat CL transactions as I do, I'll tell my best story. This summer my buddy and I picked up a used Ranger Rover at the auto auction. He was going to use it as his daily driver, but after getting home we realized it had more problems then what we wanted to deal with. I advertised it as well as I could and represented it to the best of my ability, selling it as is and a mechanic's special. We priced it cheap - what we had in it which was wholesale - just to get rid of it. I had a buyer from Grand Forks contact me and said he wanted it, he wanted it, he wanted it. He would come first thing in the morning and would I hold it for him. This guy was going to drive 500 miles to buy the truck, so understandably, he wanted to make sure it was here for him. I agreed to hold it if he would put a $200 deposit (in my checking account at a local branch) for the truck. He deposited a check for $200 that day (late Friday) and I waited to meet him the next day. Dude finally shows up at noon, checks out the truck, decides it has too many problems (wtf??) and doesn't buy. In the mean time I've told 30 people the truck is sold pending. Now here it is Saturday afternoon, a beautiful day that I've already been half screwed out of with no sale, and a bunch of potential buyers who now are less enthused because, come on, what do you tell them thats going to get them to come look at it after they know that a guy's driving 500 miles to look at it. Most of the potential buyers are in the Twin Cities 100 miles away, so they don't want to drive down now and want to come tomorrow. Technically selling through a dealership, so no Sunday sales, so now we're in to Monday and everyones at work. It took me three more weeks to sell that damn truck because one guy backed out that I promised it to. Then to add insult to injury, he cancelled his check that we both had agreed would be non-refundable for me holding it. Never again. First come, first served. Cash talks.
Sorry about the long rant. Really pissed me off.
boingk
Standard gearhead.
jeepguy28 - fair call, that really sucks...and its also why I try and deal exclusively with bank transfers and cold, hard cash. Checks give me the irrits something chronic.
As for holding for somone, if its cash or bank deposit thats fine - they don't come, I've still got their cash.
Cheers - boingk
As for holding for somone, if its cash or bank deposit thats fine - they don't come, I've still got their cash.
Cheers - boingk
phrige
I'm a pig, I'm A dog so exuse me if I drool.
I do a lot of selling of craigslist and ebay.. i agree If i make a verbal agreement with someone, thats it. that sale is closed. I do like the first come first served mentality, though definitely has to be stated up front.
Ebay is a little easier, but craigslist is where the real haggling / person to person sales come in. Some people have the grit to drive hour and half away to come check out an non-working guitar amplifier. in cases like that I just try to be as clear as possible what the known problems are the rest is buyer beware.
The one thing i worry most about is someone pissed off thinking they were buying something else. Thank goodness I haven't had that happen ever, while ive had my own ups and downs with sellers I really push being clear about the item.
realistically this item i have no matter how broken, small or insignificant to me. Someone Somewhere wants one, at a price I can make some dough on. I Just got to find them.
I cant believe how much i've made selling junk electronics that would spend the next eternity junking up junk drawers. Old Mp3 players which batteries no longer hold a charge. boom $50 bucks a pop. crazy!
Ebay is a little easier, but craigslist is where the real haggling / person to person sales come in. Some people have the grit to drive hour and half away to come check out an non-working guitar amplifier. in cases like that I just try to be as clear as possible what the known problems are the rest is buyer beware.
The one thing i worry most about is someone pissed off thinking they were buying something else. Thank goodness I haven't had that happen ever, while ive had my own ups and downs with sellers I really push being clear about the item.
realistically this item i have no matter how broken, small or insignificant to me. Someone Somewhere wants one, at a price I can make some dough on. I Just got to find them.
I cant believe how much i've made selling junk electronics that would spend the next eternity junking up junk drawers. Old Mp3 players which batteries no longer hold a charge. boom $50 bucks a pop. crazy!
m357.5
TURBO KAWI
I've had guy's not show sooooooo many times for various things I've had for sale. Jeep guy's seem to be worse than bike guy's for backing out/not showing LOL.
Biggest piss off was I took a day off work to drive half way to meet a guy that wanted one of my bikes ( 2 hour drive ) talked on the phone and agreed on a price. Then we emailed each other that mornning to confirm the time and place, and he was going to shoot me an extra $100 for time/gas. I arrived early and did some shopping at Royal Distributing. Waited a half hour past the agreed meeting time ( he hadnt showed yet ) then phoned the guy on his cell.....I get his voice mail, I leave a message. Go get a bite to eat, and phone again....no answer. Finaly its 2 hours past the time, and the douche bag texts me...he never even left home ( Windsor )
I also drove 3 hours north on Jan 1st, left home at 5am to deliver Jeep parts half way...with a huge hangover. And the guy had enough nerve to bash me on a Jeep forum cuz 1 hub was missing an outter bearing and 2 lock nuts. ( they were there when he loaded it in his trailer )....I Purolated him parts from my spare axle and never even got a thank you.
So now if someone wants a bike/parts I have listed...they can come with cash, or send payment by Paypal and I'll ship it. Thats it, no more driving for hours to get fucked. I always give the first guy interested a few days to make a deal before I move on to the next buyer...and notify the next interested party that if it isnt sold to the first guy I'll let them know quickly so they have an equal opportunity to get it.
I cant say I havent backed out of a deal...but I have always phoned to let the guy know I wasnt coming.
Biggest piss off was I took a day off work to drive half way to meet a guy that wanted one of my bikes ( 2 hour drive ) talked on the phone and agreed on a price. Then we emailed each other that mornning to confirm the time and place, and he was going to shoot me an extra $100 for time/gas. I arrived early and did some shopping at Royal Distributing. Waited a half hour past the agreed meeting time ( he hadnt showed yet ) then phoned the guy on his cell.....I get his voice mail, I leave a message. Go get a bite to eat, and phone again....no answer. Finaly its 2 hours past the time, and the douche bag texts me...he never even left home ( Windsor )
I also drove 3 hours north on Jan 1st, left home at 5am to deliver Jeep parts half way...with a huge hangover. And the guy had enough nerve to bash me on a Jeep forum cuz 1 hub was missing an outter bearing and 2 lock nuts. ( they were there when he loaded it in his trailer )....I Purolated him parts from my spare axle and never even got a thank you.
So now if someone wants a bike/parts I have listed...they can come with cash, or send payment by Paypal and I'll ship it. Thats it, no more driving for hours to get fucked. I always give the first guy interested a few days to make a deal before I move on to the next buyer...and notify the next interested party that if it isnt sold to the first guy I'll let them know quickly so they have an equal opportunity to get it.
I cant say I havent backed out of a deal...but I have always phoned to let the guy know I wasnt coming.
phrige
I'm a pig, I'm A dog so exuse me if I drool.
Yea I remember what a pain it was to sell my 2000 Jeep Cherokee. I guess it attracted the same croud of noodnicks. The amount of time spent in parking lots waiting to meet people. Icing on that cake was one dumb dumb lady.. who was a jeep expert since she has a 93 cherokee, become baffled by the 4wd system. nearly crashing a few times test driving. Then attempts to take it on the highway in 4-Lo... the engines REEEEVVING LIKE THE DEVIL, and shes looking at me yelling over the noise. How come it doesnt shift?.. uhhhhhhhhh..
of course me telling her what to do from the passenger seat didnt seem to get through to her. No matter how sternly i told her, switch out of 4 lo your pulling onto and interstate. LoL passenger seat shifting for me that time having to readjust everything.. yea the cherry on top is she fucked up the front left wheel. I forget what extactly went but u-joint or part associated with the 4 wheel drive system of course. Obviously she didn't buy it and I was stuck fixing the car.
The joys of automotive sales....
of course me telling her what to do from the passenger seat didnt seem to get through to her. No matter how sternly i told her, switch out of 4 lo your pulling onto and interstate. LoL passenger seat shifting for me that time having to readjust everything.. yea the cherry on top is she fucked up the front left wheel. I forget what extactly went but u-joint or part associated with the 4 wheel drive system of course. Obviously she didn't buy it and I was stuck fixing the car.
The joys of automotive sales....
