Of neighbors, cops and bad form

[DUEX EX]

I agree rattpunk,and opinions frompeople on an internet forum or busy bee neighbors are just that,opinions.

 

[rattpunk]

I get that. Maybe the problem is that I think other people should try to understand the perspective of each other's opinions. You know? We've all done stupid shit, give us a change to apologize and maybe we will. Come at me with threats and you're winning no love.


I'm over it and I'm sure dick-cheese down the street is too. I'll post pics if I ever bring him that 6-pack.


Ride safe out there guys and seriously, loud pipes or not, don't be a dick. I'll try if you try.


That is all.

 

[AlphaDogChoppers]

I think other people should try to understand the perspective of each other's opinions.

At THAT my friend, is exactly the perspective I was trying to give to the discussion.

Thanks for bringing this up, because I feel we should all work toward being a little less self-absorbed in this ego-centric "me, me, me" World we live in.

 

[jwarriner]

Loud motorcycles are a problem for ALL motorcycle enthusiasts. We are all ambassadors of the sport based on our public behaviors.

This isn't 1965. I don't think you have to worry that my loud pipes are going to make everyone think you're a 1%er.

Loud pipes are an expression of antisocial behavior.

Did you get this from some Eisenhower era pamphlet or propaganda reel? "Look out boys, here comes Johnny on his motorcycle!"

Is that really the way we want people to perceive us?

I don't think you have to worry about this. Motorcycles are pretty mainstream. Every yuppy and douchebag has one now. There have been several TV shows about choppers and other motorcycles. My mom knows what OC Choppers is and Jesse James married Ms. Congeniality. I don't think you have to worry that a few guys with loud pipes are going to cause anything other than unenforceable legislation (which you probably love since you hate loud pipes so much). It's not like the cops are going to rough up the middle aged guys riding their $20,000 choppers on a Sunday afternoon through the 'burbs because somewhere a CL175 doesn't have a muffler.

Anyhow, my CB550 has no muffler. Bought it that way. For some reason it's actually not as loud as my CB500 which has a really nice muffler. It does kind of sound like shit though. I got a muffler, one of those reverse cone ones. No idea how it will sound but I thought perhaps it would make the bike behave more and be easier to tune. Had nothing to do with loudness. These bikes just aren't that loud anyway. 8 times out of 9 when I can hear a bike from a distance it is one of three things, a big twin like a Harley, a sportbike or some tiny 2-stroke scooter. I'm never awoken at night by the sound of a CL175 with no muffler. A dead stock, brand new Harley is louder than my CB550 with no muffler. No fucking question about it. Why don't you stand out front of the HD dealership on your soapbox and serenade them with a soliloquy about how they're ruining your image?

Thanks for bringing this up, because I feel we should all work toward being a little less self-absorbed in this ego-centric "me, me, me" World we live in.

Is that what you got from the OP? Because I got that he was frustrated with the neighbor because he didn't give him the benefit of the doubt and was unwilling to open an honest dialog despite the OP's efforts. It sounds like you actually agree with the OP if you believe people should try and understand the perspectives of each other's opinions. Sounds like the OP wanted to do just that, it was the neighbor who was self-absorbed and ego-centric.

 

[alexmac]

I'm gonna add a little different perspective here.

If you have loud pipes on your bike, you were the dick FIRST.

Motorcycles with loud pipes hurt us all. Our rights as motorcyclists are being impinged every day due to the bad will being spread through the auditory assault inconsiderate motorcyclists commit every day. I know some communities now where the police are walking along lines of parked motorcycles with a mirror on a stick examining the pipes for the LEGALLY REQUIRED EPA stamp on the mufflers, and they will write a citation for non-stock pipes. Do we need this shit? Hell no, but you dicks with obnoxiously loud open pipes are directly responsible for such enforcement actions. Let me reiterate...If your exhaust is obnoxiously loud, then YOU are being obnoxious. YOU are the problem, not the person you are pissing of. Period. This is not rocket science. This is not a mystery.

PUT A FUCKIN' MUFFLER ON YER FUCKIN' BIKE!
Stop being an annoying dick.

best post ever

 

[AlphaDogChoppers]

OK, NOW this is getting funny!

 

[RoadRash]

I tune and test things out in my neighborhood cause that's what I have available, and I am certainly not the loudest bike in the block, although I wish my bike was amybe a little louder. Maybe then I wouldn't have oblivious drivers cut me off in my lane and then try to grind me into the adjacent parked cars on my other side!

 

[rays650cafe]

If I'm crossing the line here, let me know and I'll edit my comments... But what we are dealing with is the general pussification of man and liberalization of society. They have come to rely and pulling mommy's apron for help anytime something doesn't go their way. Why not develope a relationship with your neighbor, so if there is a future issue you can be like, "Hey Bill, how much longer are you going to be out with the bike? Its making a bit of a racket." No, instead its, "WHAAAAAAAA I'm calling the cops!"

Let's try and remember that some liberals are former military too. The whole liberals are a bunch of pussies thing is about the most annoying thing I have ever heard of. I suppose when stacked up against some badasses like Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, and guys like that, maybe I should feel like a little less tough. But in spite of my having to exsist in this world with the knowledge that I will never be as tough or as disiplined as my right wing bretheren, I'm still gonna be proud of the fact that my last MOS was 11BX3 HOORAH!!!
PS Do agree on the last part

 

[jwarriner]

Lil' bitches come from all political leanings.

 

[TerryK]

When someone gets goofy with me it's way WAY more fun to just be overly nice to them, while continuing to do whatever it is that's bothering them. They get so confused because I'm agreeing with them and being sympathetic to their concerns, yet I'm still, say revving my bike in neutral. "I know...it's so loud isnt it?? I wish someone would do something about it"

 

[miikeflynn]

When someone gets goofy with me it's way WAY more fun to just be overly nice to them, while continuing to do whatever it is that's bothering them. They get so confused because I'm agreeing with them and being sympathetic to their concerns, yet I'm still, say revving my bike in neutral. "I know...it's so loud isnt it?? I wish someone would do something about it"

Being awkwardly and confusingly nice is always a favorite. "Gosh. Someone really should put a muffler on this thing. Can you imagine trying to have a relaxing afternoon with someone out revving this thing up? Maybe you and I should contact the authorities."

Huh? ???

 

[Blake]

I'm glad I read this thread. I've been on both sides. I too have worked on my exhaust and taken my ragged bike around the block for shake downs. Yes it was loud as hell and I'm sure I annoyed everyone.

We welcomed our first kiddo last year. We live in an old house in a historic neighborhood where the houses are built right to the street. Our bedroom are on the front of the house so we're less than 20 feet from the street. This guy moves in around the corner with a metal flake green Harley. It's obnoxiously loud. He fires it up and blasts up hill, past our house with wide open throttle. There's no reason for him to do this at 6:30am when the distance from his driveway to the main street is less than 500 feet. I've held my tongue for over a year because I've been on the other end of this. Thankfully, when I was at my absolute wits end, he moved. I will shed no tears about losing a fellow bike enthusiast in my neighborhood. I relish that final hour of sleep before our son rises with the sunrise.

 

[rattpunk]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting to see where everyone stands on stuff like personal responsibility, confrontation, loud pipes and interpersonal skills. We'll see how it goes this weekend. I'll just draining and refilling the forks, might readjust the lamp a bit too, playing with getting the cable routing just right. That's gonna mean a shakedown lap somewhere 8)


There's actually a highschool down the street I'm thinking might make a good spot to test suspension and all that. Bring some tools and wait for a cop to show up and tell me to go home. Bet you $50 he'll be easier to talk to than homeboy down the road. Ha!

 

[axeugene27]

I am honestly completely over loud pipes. I don't really think most make bikes sound better usually it's a guy doing 25 mph down the road like hey watch me get up to the speed limit.

 

[MikeyG]

I think pipes depend on the install. Obnoxiously loud pipes on a commuter that gets run in the early hours just give riders a bad name. If the bike is only run during gentlemans hours then i like a performance exhaust system.

In my mind there is a big difference between pipes that are loud for performance and pipes that are loud for the sake of being loud. Or between loud pipes at midday and loud pipes at 6am.

 

[rattpunk]

I am honestly completely over loud pipes. I don't really think most make bikes sound better usually it's a guy doing 25 mph down the road like hey watch me get up to the speed limit.

Ironically, I agree completely. I've always laughed at guys driving Accord sedans with Megaflows and spoilers running stock engine and suspension. At least I can laugh at myself for the same reasons. It's always been about utility: Does this work? Does it serve a purpose? Can I afford a better/safer version? Can I live without it? So fuck it. The best system for this bike, at this time, is what it is. As far as obnoxiousness, I know there's a time and a place. 6am for sure isn't cool but sometimes, you just gotta work it out.


I had a 63' bug the PO had removed all unnecessary weight from, dropped a 1914cc engine in, with dual Webbers and a racing exhaust. He was building it for the local drag strip. Of course for me it was a daily driver. I'll always feel bad for the day I had to drive my roomate to work at 5:30. I was in an apartment complex and the little bastard took at least 10 minutes to warm up... and it was cold enough i had to rev it more than a few times. The chick downstairs came out, lit up a smoke and just gave me the "WTF, really?" look, all I could do was shrug. She wouldn't have even heard a "Sorry" haha

 

[axeugene27]

I have a friend at work who has a really nice suzuki m109 that he put pipes on. I ask him all time why he doesn't drive it to work. He says it's too loud i can't start it in my neigborhood at 6 when i leave for work. Now that is a serious waste of machinery.

 

[popelli]

[font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]So I've been working on my bike and had to replace the exhaust. For a few weeks now I take the bike around the block to check cables, play, breaks, is everything screwed on tight enough... you know. Well Saturday I'm out, not really working on it or anything just checking it all out, making sure the battery didn't die again from wherever that short is. I go do a lap, come back, park the bike have a conversation with the little old lady that lives downstairs, put some more water in her bird bath for her and throw the helmet on for one last go-around before I pack up the tools for the week.[/font]

[font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]So I come round the bend, and there's a guy walking out into the street. Making eye contact with me. I slow, he keeps approaching. I stop the bike and before I can kill the engine or remove my helmet;[/font]
[font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]"You keep riding around making all that racket I'll call the cops on you!" then he starts walking away. "Hey, wait." I say taking off the helmet. He's still spouting something, no idea what [/font](the pipes are way loud btw) [font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]but his hands are still waving and fingers pointing. "Hey, hold up." I've got my helmet off now and kill the engine. "I've got a question for you." Fucker finally turns around and basically I try to explain that I'm still trying to get the bike to a legal spot where it'll pass inspection. I'm curious if it's only a nuisance when I open it up or even when low-revving. He doesn't give a shit about anything I'm saying and just uses each time I open my mouth to try to chastise me further. He's going on about families on the street, babies sleeping, legal limits on sound. And mind you - I'm still being respectful and trying to actually have a constructive conversation with someone who lives maybe 8 houses down from me. But dick-cheese here just wants to threaten me and well... be a dick. So I apologized a couple times in there when he mentions babies and for the times I really opened it up - but hey testing new exhaust But then he starts walking away still talking shit. I just called him out and said "Look dude. I've already apologized a couple times so now you get to back off, right? We're good now. Right?" He mumbles something else and I wanted to tell him he should really look people in the eye when he's talking to them. [/font]

[font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I mean really? C'mon man... Who the fuck jumps straight to calling the cops? How about a simple "Hey! Can you please stop making so much fucking noise? I'm trying to be a jerk over here?" Why the hostility, and the passive-aggressive hostility at that? Not to mention, starting a fight and threatening someone you don't know, but that person knows where you live, that doesn't strike me as very smart.[/font] [font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You really don't want to have to call the cops on me [/font]buddy. I don't either. [font=helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]

Anyway, I'm over the whole thing. I just can't stand people that think they need to jump right into full-on-dick-mode. I ain't asking for hugs and shit. I don't need a fucking card on my birthday just, don't be a dick. It's no that difficult, not that complicated.[/font]

try being on the receiving end of a dipstick neighbour who revs cars at all hours of the day or night for hours on end, has parties until the early hours of the morning 6am and is a general antisocial prick

thats what we had to endure, my wife asked said idiot to moderate his noise, idiot argued with and then assaulted her, next thing we have police on our doorstep to arrest her for assaulting him, fortunately there was witnesses and it went no where, since then antisocial noisey neighbour has harrassed & threatened us at every opportunity "for going to the police about him"

Eventually after months of harrassment & complaints to police they have given this antisocial prick a warning but they refuse to charge him with the assault on my wife

thats the flip side we have with an antisocial noisey neighbour - its not a lot of fun

 

[axeugene27]

if someone layed hands on my wife I would likely be the one going to jail.

 

[CresentSon]

Yup.