Running on ethanol

tsquared109

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I'm mostly just curious about this but does anyone know what size jets I would want to use to run a cb350 on pure ethanol or how I could figure out what size jets I need? I don't know a whole lot about jetting but I'm familiar with the basics of how an engine works. From what I've read I will need to use bigger jets since ethanol has less BTU's per gallon than gas does. Also I read I could increase the compression but I'm not really worrying about that right now.
 
Its going to get expansive filling your tank with Everclear 8)
 
You need to go about 40% bigger on your jets. Only tuning will tell you for certain, though. Not all engines respond in the same way to ethanol.
 
Keep in mind than you will burn nearly twice the amount of Ethanol as gasoline to make the same power. Small tank = short ride. You will need higher compression, and different rings as well. Not to mention Ethanol is hydroscopic, which means it attracts moisture. Feel like cleaning your fuel system after every ride? Without having hard anodized fittings, your fuel system will become full of a white powder residue. I have spent many years wrenching on midgets and sprint cars which both run methanol, very similar to Ethanol. Good luck to you in whatever you choose to use.
 
I want to run ethanol because I'm thinkng about growing some corn that I can ferrment and distill into nearly pure ethanol. I'm in the process of reading Walden so I'm into the whole self reliance thing.
 
tsquared109 said:
I want to run ethanol because I'm thinkng about growing some corn that I can ferrment and distill into nearly pure ethanol. I'm in the process of reading Walden so I'm into the whole self reliance thing.

Put the book down and join us back in the real world.

Ethanol is, for a variety of reasons, a very bad idea on a vehicle that wasn't designed to use it.

You would be better off digging your own fracking well, harvesting natural gas and compressing it for an LNG install.

-Deek
 
I prefer shooting holes in the ground to find oil pockets, beverly hillbillys style.
 
ILoveThumpers said:
Put the book down and join us back in the real world.

Ethanol is, for a variety of reasons, a very bad idea on a vehicle that wasn't designed to use it.

You would be better off digging your own fracking well, harvesting natural gas and compressing it for an LNG install.

-Deek

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D good answer clap clap clap clap :)

or make some shine likker fer humane cunsumpshun
 
I read Walden once too... I was pretty gung-ho for a while. Then I read Moby Dick and wanted to be a sailor. Then I read Harry Potter and wanted to be a wizard.

The allure of an alternative lifestyle eventually wears off and you end up with a vegetable garden full of weeds, a half-finished boat and a vegan mistress that no amount of wand waving will banish.

-Deek
 
Shit! Yer Keeling me!

All joking aside, been there, done that. Yeah, I squeezed mild from the goat's teats, I heated with wood that I cut myself, I used kerosene for light, and I grew a lot of my own food, canned and preserved it.

In the final analysis, I think I prefer a hot shower to washing in the cold creek, and a flush toilet vs. the squat privy. Running water was a pump at the sink.

I actually LIVED here:
http://alphadogchoppers.com/movies/FernCottage.mov
 
The way I see it I'm 19 and I want to try gaining some independence and I want to learn about life. I want to have some experiences and build some character. The "real world" isn't going anywhere so what's the harm in trying to live apart from it for a while, especially when I have nothing tying me down.

This has really digressed from the original topic. I was just wondering about that as a hypothetical if I try out the Walden lifestyle and end up taking a liking to it.
 
It takes about 30 pounds of corn to make a single gallon of ethanol. I hope you have a lot of land.
 
You cannot grow enough corn and distill it quickly enough to use it as a regular fuel source, not to mention the incredible maintenance schedule you would need. There's a reason Thoreau didn't drive into the woods.
 
BETTER SOLUTION
grow fart beans
eat fart beans
fart
convert engines to run on fart gas,it is much cleaner than alky
and more practicall as growing your own alky
 
I do have a considerable amount of land but yeah the ethanol thing sounds like a bad idea. Better to work a little and just buy gas if I actually go through with this.

Also thoreau didn't drive because cars weren't invented yet and he lived only a mile from Concord.
 
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